Problems with Multislots Mod

Bram Hengeveld · Jul 25, 2009

I have mentioned this before after testing this mod tool for a week on a public server, but nobody wanted to listen.

Take a look at this:
http://forum.racedepartment.com/gtr...scheduled-500k-elkhart-lake-road-america.html

Awesome event planned by Eric totally ruined by all the strange stuff that happens with the mod to increase the client slots.

Please, please, please reconsider the current format and go back to 25 drivers per server max!

If more slots would be possible without problem i am sure simbin would have raised it already in the game with a patch.

My 2 cents to improve the disco party

Damian Henderson · Jul 25, 2009

Test races ran ok though apart from some lag at times.

The netcode is crap though, 39 cars is pushing it but I don't think it will change the format after everything thats been debated.

Kevin Ascher · Jul 25, 2009

Bram, how higher is the chance to have disconnects with that mod compared to a usual 25 slots race?

James Johnson · Jul 25, 2009

It werent as much as Disco. It felt more like Sync issue since i could stay in server. But Timing on drivers mid lap would continue even when the pass S/F line and I couldnt see any chat from when it started. When You rejoined Problem would Go Away and then return a few minutes in.

Bram Hengeveld · Jul 25, 2009

Its not only disco's Kev:
1) Cars that don't see anything on the grid
2) Minidumps
3) Lag
4) Cars bouncing on the startgrid
5) Cars double parked on the grid and collide

Damian i dont want to act like the smart guy and if you guys go ahead with the mod it's fine by me and i will follow what the administration will want us to do.

But also in the testrace people dropped out and had similar issues (team gg i think) but nobody related those to the mod.

Oh well, just wanted to warn you cause i have extensively tested this tool for almost a week online and not one single race was without weird issues.

Damian Henderson · Jul 25, 2009

Ye i know Bram, those issue's got directed towards the server and anything negative towards the mod thrown into a game / server issue rather then possible mod issue when they could of been a mod issue.

Lets see how it goes anyway.

Neil Gault · Jul 25, 2009

got to agree with Bram on this one lots of problems tonight and some of them very similar to what i have seen in the past with the old version of this app, i also see it has been updated yesterday to version v2.6.3 so maybe worth trying again

Damian Henderson · Jul 26, 2009

This is result from last STC test race, only about 4 guys got disco there I think out of 37 cars and only other problem was bit of lag at the start and blue flags.

http://www.simracingteamchallenge.com/results/STC/prhttt/

I wonder what caused the problem for the ?mod? for the race to go so wrong in the race you brought up bram.

It's probably worth doing 2 or 3 more STC test races.

Bram Hengeveld · Jul 26, 2009

In the RD event it was 100% the mod, what Eric discribes is exactly what i have been shouting for weeks already. That mod is the devil

D)

On a serious note: Only 4 disco's?? Imho thats 4 too much compared to a normal race in Evo.

If people dont suffer from the freeze bug i can't recall a race where people disconnect caused by the game

Damian Henderson · Jul 26, 2009

There's normally about 2-4 who disco in normal no mod Evo race though hehe.

Best thing to do is as said, STC to do a couple more test races, sooner rather then later.

Philip Antonia · Jul 26, 2009

Some are still having issues when we're running 30 cars in the Friday Night S2000 races. Though a lot less when we ran on the Simbin Brands Hatch.

It will be gr8 if the problems can be sorted especially if you guys are gonna run that many cars in your league.

Hope it all goes well and that you can run the bigger fields:good:.

David Garcia · Jul 26, 2009

We raced last full season with 30 slots mod and was OK. Already made 2 test races and was OK aswell.... don´t know what to think...

But one thing is clear, a new test have to be done.

Mark Birney · Jul 26, 2009

The race was a complete disaster, but the STCC race last night went well with it, and the STC tests went well... Perhaps something else was in the mix. Eric mentioned the server OS, and maybe NAW. The amount of custom skins seemed to be an issue too.

Ivo Simons · Jul 26, 2009

Just like David says. We did two races with this mod and there weren't any problems. Little lag in the first lap of Ricard was the only one. In the Ricard i also used a custom skin and didn't give any problems. I don't think get that we have to change the format already, only a couple test races would be a option to sort out any of the problems.

David Garcia · Jul 26, 2009

Ivo Simons said:
Just like David says. We did two races with this mod and there weren't any problems. Little lag in the first lap of Ricard was the only one. In the Ricard i also used a custom skin and didn't give any problems. I don't think get that we have to change the format already, only a couple test races would be a option to sort out any of the problems.

Indeed Ivo, I am up for do as much tests as needed.

GTR Evo use to be a bug full game, so if there is lag there will be lag with 2 cars on track or with 39, I am sure of it.

A great idea my teammate Mikael sugested is next: "maybe when we get the schedule finished we should try to get all skins and all ready then test like 2 laps on each track with the whole field?"

I think it is a cool idea, and we will schedule a test like this.

Keith Barrick · Jul 26, 2009

As for the Friday night races here are my observations:

Warrick Farm 29 Entries.

After quali in warm up people had the following problems:

See no cars
See no chat
See only 23 or less cars
See Need to load 1 car

In the race:

Some ppl were alone on grid with +/- not working.
Some ppl saw only 23 cars
Some ppl were disconnected
Some ppl saw no chat
The people experiencing these problems when they pitted were pushed into the garage and out of the race

This race was an exception as Warrick farm has had issues in the past with stability, then add the mod = death

The race at Brands had a total of 26 drivers including Eric on sidelines

Everything went well until headed to grid.

Gregory Degreef, got the 23 cars thing, and could see no chat, and then he left.

I just wanted to report the findings so that if its possible to duplicate, maybe it can be fixed.

Hope this helps.

Keith

David Garcia · Jul 26, 2009

By the way, this thread title is a bit of bad Karma, isn´t it??? :eyeroll:

James Johnson · Jul 26, 2009

Keith Barrick said:
As for the Friday night races here are my observations:

Warrick Farm 29 Entries.

After quali in warm up people had the following problems:

See no cars
See no chat
See only 23 or less cars
See Need to load 1 car

In the race:

Some ppl were alone on grid with +/- not working.
Some ppl saw only 23 cars
Some ppl were disconnected
Some ppl saw no chat
The people experiencing these problems when they pitted were pushed into the garage and out of the race

This race was an exception as Warrick farm has had issues in the past with stability, then add the mod = death

The race at Brands had a total of 26 drivers including Eric on sidelines

Everything went well until headed to grid.

Gregory Degreef, got the 23 cars thing, and could see no chat, and then he left.

I just wanted to report the findings so that if its possible to duplicate, maybe it can be fixed.

Hope this helps.

Keith