[Poll] Car selection for an upcoming sports car league

Dennis · Jun 28, 2014

Before you vote, please consider:

Every LMP driver will need to purchase URD EGT
No performance/balance changes by us; EGTs will stay the way they are, as provided by Ales

Fairly soon RD will hold its first Virtual Sports Car Championchip, in the spirit of TUSCC. It will consist of four 4 - 6 hour long races, and allow for driver swaps.

For this, we would like to have your input on the car selection. Do you prefer different cars per class, or perfect balance? And are paid cars OK, even if you race in a different class?

Please note that this league is not intended to be a successor or replacement of the VWEC/RDLMS, and will run as a completely separate entity.

More details will be released in the near future.

Kyle Cardwell · Jul 26, 2014

What cars and tracks will I need to download from this website so I know in the future? I don't like paying for mods, mods are meant to be free, imo.

Kyle Cardwell · Jul 26, 2014

Im thinking about getting RF2 and a wheel so I can join either fsr, dw12 indycar league, or whatever sports car/gt/touring car league.

Frederic Schornstein · Jul 26, 2014

Kyle Cardwell said:
What cars and tracks will I need to download from this website so I know in the future? I don't like paying for mods, mods are meant to be free, imo.

It looks like the URD cars will be run which cost around 10€, but it is a very high quality mod and run by several leauges. Officially the cars and tracks arent announced, but the rest should be free and usually RD provides all the download links you need once the leauge is officially announced.

Kyle Cardwell · Jul 26, 2014

so, in US dollars, it would be 10$? hm, i just looked up their website to see what kind of cars they make.

Frederic Schornstein said:
It looks like the URD cars will be run which cost around 10€, but it is a very high quality mod and run by several leauges. Officially the cars and tracks arent announced, but the rest should be free and usually RD provides all the download links you need once the league is officially announced.

sry, if I got the dollar amount wrong as im not in eu,uk.

Daniel Almeida · Jul 27, 2014

Very interested.

Tero Dahlberg · Jul 27, 2014

Me too

Daniel Almeida · Jul 28, 2014

David O'Reilly said:
Mt personal feedback on the URD mod.

Tyre wear. as I have written above following my testing I believe that the tyre wear is so low as to inhibit strategic choice. IE Full tank of fuel and drive flat out till it's empty is the only strategy. Tyre management is denuded significantly if not totally.

I was reading the topic and wanted to comment on this point. Two weeks ago I had a league race in Mid-Ohio using the URD mod. A full fuel stint lasted between 47 and 48 laps and tire conservation was a major issue there. We had one team stopping after 30 laps because of that. In the pre-race testing I found that my tires would be completely shot after 30 laps with the first iteration of our setup.
I then invested quite a bit of time to improve it and also to adjust my driving style to keep the tires in better shape over the run. We finally could do the full fuel stint in a satisfactory way (laptimes were around 1.5 to 2 sec slower towards the end of the stint), but our competitors were losing another 2 or 3 sec in comparison to us.

I'm relatively new to rF2 and can't compare it to the ISI Corvette, but the tire behaviour looks quite good to me.

Also, regarding the grip levels, I find it comparable to the GT cars in Assetto Corsa, which in my opinion are spot on.

TLDR: I think the URD mod is pretty good and I'm happy that the majority agrees.

Simon Christmann · Jul 28, 2014

Thats true Daniel. But that wasn't the original tires

Daniel Almeida · Jul 28, 2014

Aa far as I know they were. The "Michemin" tires at simautosport are identical to the URD mod.

Frederic Schornstein · Jul 28, 2014

Daniel Almeida said:
Aa far as I know they were. The "Michemin" tires at simautosport are identical to the URD mod.

I am not sure they messed around so much with the tires, but still you shouls get them over the distance fairly easy.
Tire wear on the ISI Corvette feels like twice as much.

Daniel Almeida · Jul 28, 2014

Like I said, in Mid Ohio it was an issue for most teams. I don't expect this to be the case in every track though. And again, the tires are identical to the URD mod.

Regarding the ISI Corvette, I would like to point out that a higher wear rate is not automatically more realistic. People who can drive without producing any wear to the URD tires, could double stint them. I don't expect that to be the case though...

Frederic Schornstein · Jul 28, 2014

Daniel Almeida said:
Like I said, in Mid Ohio it was an issue for most teams. I don't expect this to be the case in every track though. And again, the tires are identical to the URD mod.

Regarding the ISI Corvette, I would like to point out that a higher wear rate is not automatically more realistic. People who can drive without producing any wear to the URD tires, could double stint them. I don't expect that to be the case though...

I dont know which compound you used. The Medium Michemin is very durable.
With the URD car you can get away with mistakes a lot more easier and you don't have to watch your tyre temps as much in the fast corners.
If you lock up two or three times in the ISI Corvette, you will be disadvantaged on your stint. For me I can push the URD cars quite hard and with the ISI I need to be more smooth and relaxed not trying to get the fastest lap possible, but going at a quick pace without killing the tyres.

You should try both on a track like Bahrain or Sebring. Mid Ohio is a bit special as it is really tight.