OSW and rig -help needed

Discussion in 'Sim Racing Hardware' started by tomino1270, Jan 13, 2019.

  1. tomino1270

    tomino1270

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    Hi all,
    I want to start race again and buy new equipment for it. I like simucube and big mige, so it will be my choice (probably because of price, force, FW etc.). But I´m little confused about the encoders. Everybody says BISS-C is the best, but as i know, BISS-C is only a communication protocol (maybe not?). So if i find big mige with BISS-C encoder, is it that great 4,2MPPR or is possible it is something worse?
    My second and bigger question is about rig. I definitely want a DIY plans. In the past, i had PVC tubes and some aluminium profiles with G27. For now I'm looking for some wooden rig (could it be strong enough for big mige?) for GT cars (my goal is VRS GT sprint series in iRacing). Number one candidate is
    https://opensimracing.com/collections/wood-sim-rig-plans/products/plans-super-sport-atom-wood
    Probably the pedal plate needs to be lower, but my biggest concerns are about rigidity. What do you thing about this choice? Is some rig which you can recommend? Geometry as close as possible to GT cars because of VR.
    Is there some cheap usable quick release for wheels?

    Thanks for replies and advices.
     
  2. Jeremy Ford

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    That wooden cockpit won't be solid enough. Some of the force feed will be absorbed into the cockpit reducing the fidelity of the effects being output that you will feel from the direct drive wheel. As you seem keen on DIY, build your own 80/20 aluminum profile for a solid platform for your wheel and pedals.

    'Cheap' quick releases are a false economy, don't fall into that trap.
     
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  3. Beef36

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    I think the latest SimuCubes come with the Biss-C 4.2m PPR encoders by default so if you are buying new I would just get that as I have not seen anyone complaining about its performance.

    I have read there are 8m encoders now, however I used to have a 50K encoder and then upgraded to a 2m encoder and to be honest I can't feel the difference. So if an 8m encoder is available at the same price then get it, but if it's a higher price then I wouldn't bother as the real world differences would be so small.

    I'd recommend a DIY 80/20 rig. That is where the market is going and you get flexibility in conjunction with its much vaunted rigidity. Here is an example of a DIY plan:

    https://github.com/JamesClonk/simracing-rig
    [​IMG]


    I agree with Jeremy. There are a number of good quick releases but don't skimp and get a cheap knockoff, because it may have some play in it and reduce FFB fidelity, and if it break you could hurt yourself.

    Get something really robust like the Hybrid Racing Simulations' QR or the Holger QR1.
     
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  4. Ceolmor

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    1. I have a small Mige and upgraded from a 40,000 cpr encoder to a BISS-C. It is better and smoother. Most mainstream OSW suppliers now include the BISS-C encoder anyway.

    2. +1 for 80/20 rig. For a cheaper option look at Motedis

    3. Unless you have more than one steering wheel you do not need a quick release.
     
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  5. anton_Chez

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    I'd echo the boys' thoughts here. Have the small Mige and a SimLab 80 20 chassis. Couldn't be happier.

    The beautiful thing about 80 20 is you build it once and pretty much never have to worry about it again. If you change hardware, great, the chassis can change with you. You don't even need official pieces, if you're handy you can knock some brackets and mounts up yourself, out of whatever you have lying around.
     
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  6. tomino1270

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    Thank's for advices.
    I will build own rig from some profiles. Probably something between this one https://opensimracing.com/collections/metal-sim-rig-plans/products/8020-minimalist-rig-plans and Motedis X-dream. Something with bigger "table" for wheelbase, mouse tray, buttonbox etc.
    I know that cheap quick releases are trash, but I hoped that exist something good. So my "mounting plan A" remains the same. For first try i will print on 3D printer some quick release for bike clamp, try it for some low settings for dialing best lenght of it and then make one on lathe from aluminium. Honestly, i will be using only one wheel for most races. My second will probably be only "must have" but no use (https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2804043).
    My question about the encoder was because i will not buy a OSW set, but separate parts and build it. I can have it almost 50% cheaper than buying a plug and play. If even the mige factory in china sells it with the 4,2M encoder, I will buy it directly from them.
     
  7. Jacco van der Zaag

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    The quick release you'll get with an Augury OSW kit is pretty decent.
     
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