Fergutor, you should at least use the up to date version of NGP to contribute to a constructive discussion, and not refer to the 3.1 version. Its clear that RSRBR is not the way to go regarding NGP (they don´t seem to like it). Also be aware of one very important thing: Visual perception problem. Playing in a monitor can be very disappointing depending on screen size, incorrect FOV, etc. I use an Oculus rift to play rbr, and that gives you the correct perspective/scale/etc, and I became much more aware of how unrealistic certain rsrbr cars (default physics) are regarding speed for example, and on the contrary I see that NGP speeds are the correct ones. Things will change in the next years when more and more people have access to VR. Anyway, workerbee you are doing a magnificent job. One thing I have to agree with some people: the default wrc setups on 4.4 are far from good. But of course its our job to find a good setup for our driving style, it can be a very subjective thing.