Modders: So, is it open for modding?

[Shovas]

Is ACC locked down or open for modding?

That was one of the big questions in my mind about the longevity and success that ACC could have.

*fingerscrossed*

 

[Amanda]

If you think about it they could build a blueprint to look for new content in the game's directory. If modders want to mod for Unreal they need to use Unreal too, which means their exported content should be compatible with ACC from the get-go.

Besides, Stefano already said modders will need to learn Unreal Engine 4, which to me (an UE4-game developer) that ACC will be accepting MODs.

 

[Shovas]

Here's hoping!

@kunos :beer:

 

[AccAkut]

Besides, Stefano already said modders will need to learn Unreal Engine 4, which to me (an UE4-game developer) that ACC will be accepting MODs.

Or he meant that for whatever is the next STANDALONE title after ACC, which could use the same UE4 basis but a different encryption system, if at all.
They have said that Kunos does not want to do another title as DLC heavy as AC, but rather "small" standalones like now with Blancpain. I don't say ACC will receive no DLCs, but it will get less and not as diverse. Maybe GT4 class. But no streetcars for example.

 

[Amanda]

Or he meant that for whatever is the next STANDALONE title after ACC, which could use the same UE4 basis but a different encryption system, if at all.

He said that on an ACC thread and the subject was modding, so I don't think he meant that for the next title, but for this one.

 

[Tbear]

This is a HEADLINE, NOT my opinion, AND I DIDN'T WRITE THE DAMNED INTERVIEW:

ASSETTO CORSA COMPETIZIONE WON'T SUPPORT MODDING

https://www.racedepartment.com/threads/assetto-corsa-competizione-wont-support-modding.147973/

This interview was posted 2 March, 2018 ... and is only one of many similar statements since this product (ACC) was announced by Kunos.

Just read the freakin' interview.

 

[Shovas]

Assetto Corsa Competizione Won't "Support" Modding

https://www.racedepartment.com/threads/assetto-corsa-competizione-wont-support-modding.147973/

This interview was posted 2 March, 2018 ... and is only one of many similar statements since this product (ACC) was announced by Kunos.

Yes, this is the interview I remember reading and why it's been on my mind since launch day.

It's either locked down or open with a different format for modding that isn't officially supported.

A post above mentioned the pak files were encrypted.

So the only option left is Kunos voluntarily providing the decryption keys on those files. You just don't see companies doing that if it's not already open day-one.

ACC will sell a lot of copies but the problem is, without being open and moddable, it will never achieve the status and longetivity that games like GTR2/GTL/Race07 have.

Even PC2 is moddable.

ACC has/will have all the features that we've been waiting for. It would be a shame if that were locked down forever.

 

[Please Stop This]

the game does scan the directory (ProcMon):
"AC2-Win64-Shipping.exe","CreateFile","C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Assetto Corsa Competizione\AC2\Mods","NAME NOT FOUND","Desired Access: Read Attributes"

 

[mclarenf1papa]

Yes, this is the interview I remember reading and why it's been on my mind since launch day.

It's either locked down or open with a different format for modding that isn't officially supported.

A post above mentioned the pak files were encrypted.

So the only option left is Kunos voluntarily providing the decryption keys on those files. You just don't see companies doing that if it's not already open day-one.

ACC will sell a lot of copies but the problem is, without being open and moddable, it will never achieve the status and longetivity that games like GTR2/GTL/Race07 have.

Even PC2 is moddable.

ACC has/will have all the features that we've been waiting for. It would be a shame if that were locked down forever.

Even if you unpack the pak, it’ll just be full of unreal engine formatted files...realistically, Kunos needs to give us an sdk for us to be able to add anything.

 

[Simon Kaminski]

Even if you unpack the pak, it’ll just be full of unreal engine formatted files...realistically, Kunos needs to give us an sdk for us to be able to add anything.

Nice to see that you finally agree with the things I said in the beginning.

 

[Jason Mullin]

I was seriously looking forward to the potential for some multiclass racing.

Perhaps future DLC if the license allows.

 

[ALB123]

I can be 100% incorrect, but I kind of thought from the original announcement that modding wouldn't be ingrained into ACC the way it is with AC because of the ties to the Blancpain race series. Technically, that shouldn't matter as AC had tons of corporate relationships: Ferrari, Lamborghini, Chevy, Porsche, Lotus, etc... and the same was true regarding tracks.

As Ilja has shown, with ingenuity and a whole lot of skill...some things that seem impossible may actually be possible. Assetto Corsa is still as exciting as it's ever been, in my eyes...If no mods will ever make it into ACC I'll be totally fine with that. It's not like all of a sudden AC becomes trash just because ACC is coming. ACC is so specific in scope.

 

[Turk]

So it looks like the issue is not that Kunos has locked down ACC, but that UE4 is locked down by default. UE4 needs to be cracked, not ACC. Which is probably much more difficult. So modding unlikely.

I assume skins will still be allowed, and maybe they can shared easier in a locked down system.

This doesn't really bother me as much. ACC was always going to be a very specific title. It never struck me as being AC2.

 

[hypertek]

raceroom isnt moddable and its a fantastic sim.
and same for pcars2..

i dont think the lack of modding should take away from acc. We are just spoiled from rf and original ac. lol

 

[Emery]

We are just spoiled from rf and original ac. lol

Guess you're too young to have been spoiled by mods in Grand Prix Legends, SportsCar GT, & F1 Challenge?

 

[Leonardo Ratafiá]

Even if you unpack the pak, it’ll just be full of unreal engine formatted files...realistically, Kunos needs to give us an sdk for us to be able to add anything.

From the logs you can tell the cars have at least have a data folder just like ac

 

[mclarenf1papa]

From the logs you can tell the cars have at least have a data folder just like ac

Full of Unreal Engine files...they’re binary files, not text.

 

[Mitja Bonca]

From the logs you can tell the cars have at least have a data folder just like ac

Is there a car folder? As far as I looked, I haven't noticed it (only some encrypted files).

 

[Jack Vos]

Guess you're too young to have been spoiled by mods in Grand Prix Legends, SportsCar GT, & F1 Challenge?

Back in the Amiga years we had F1GP editor from Olivier Roberts
Rene Smit (GPxPatch) had some cool timing programs made for F1GP

If a Sim is not modable its not a real Sim
for ACC "Nature will find its way"

 

[A3DR]

for ACC "Nature will find its way"

That's right, and if not, there are lots of other games to play. We'll still have AC to enjoy driving many different kind of cars anyway.

 

[shmafoozius]

There are already some guys trying to find the relevant key for decrypting the pak files used in ACC, however this will take time. I guess only once this is done, modding might be possible. Otherwise, forget it.