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Featured Is Vettel Done For?

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by leon_90, Sep 11, 2019.

What do you believe Vettel future will bring?

Poll closed Friday at 22:31.
  1. Renewal with Ferrari

    35.9%
  2. Team Change - Red Bull

    13.3%
  3. Team Change - Mercedes

    5.3%
  4. Team Change - X Team (specify which in the comment section)

    5.9%
  5. WEC / Endurance Racing

    8.3%
  6. Indycar

    2.9%
  7. Shift to (specify which branch of the motorsport in the comment section)

    2.4%
  8. Retirement

    36.5%
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  1. Dux

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    "Vettel can only win with a dominant car Red Bull" only because he is losing today (& the past 4 years) from a car which is double more dominant than the Red Bull was both in time span and pure performance. He won with Toro Roso and Ferrari in days Mercedes were untouchable. Saying he can win only with dominant car is hilarious.
     
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  2. Dux

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    If we speak about gifts, you can see the championships from 2014 till today. But make no mistake, 2010-13 were titles on merit when we had racing and titles were won by drivers, not cars.
     
  3. LeSunTzu

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    You can't help people from having a very short memory especially about racing or any sport.
     
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  4. LogintoDL888

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  5. Turk

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    If the change of scenery came with a pay cut worth a few million I think he might just stick to looking at the Italian mountains sipping champagne for a while longer.
     
  6. paracletus

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    He's not done, but he is struggling with this type of car for sure -- Rosberg explains it on his youtube channel, something about the oversteer characteristic of the ferrari which vettelle does not like.
    2018 ferrari was capable of winning the DC and SV himself admitted he should have done better.

    LH or FA probably would have won the DC in 2018 scuderia, some former F1 drivers have stated.
     
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  7. F1Aussie

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    I honestly think he is over rated and has had his weaknesses masked by being in a dominant red bull, when he hasn't had a dominant car he has looked average and gas made more mistakes than most other drivers in the last couple of years. He is only good when out in front.
     
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  8. HK2014

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    Indeed, he looked very average after winning in a TR.
     
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  9. F1Aussie

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    One race does not make a career. Fisichella got pole at Spa in a force India too and second in that race, the FI was no where near the best car in the field either. It did not mean Fish was one of the best drivers in the field. Indeed Ferrari poached him after that and he looked very ordinary in that car.
     
  10. LeSunTzu

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    Like him or not, Vettel never looked ordinary in any car.
     
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  11. Eric Rowland

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  12. F1Aussie

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    He has in the last two years in the Ferrari and he did in the red bull when Ricciardo was his teammate
     
  13. kondor999

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    "Brazil 2012"? Is that a joke? That was possibly Vettel's finest moment.



    Can any driver in F1 win without having "the dominant car"? This is F1, not Indycar. The car matters. A lot.
     
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  14. Dann Murillo

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    Post Singapore GP bump :cool:
     
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  15. Antony Snook

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    Cut the BS hes just won Singapore. Not a easy track to run on but he did it. Leclerc was given a slightly bad strategy, favoring Vettel but its a team sport with 2 cars.
     
  16. Dux

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    What are you guys drinking? I'm buying! It feels like he won the title. Finally things fall in place after watching them for far too long falling apart!
     
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  17. Sasha Jednak

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    Yes, did his magic out-lap as only he knows. :confused: Nobody expected that, except probably him. It looks like he took everything: germany/monza/suzuka 2018, canada 2019, monza q3/r and burned it into that lap.:cool:
     
  18. paracletus

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    Ferrari have certainly found a lot of downforce (which will suit SV in particular), looking at the singapore race pace.
    Must be some new parts - they didn't need it in monza or spa so much.
     
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  19. Dux

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    Well Simone Resta who came in from Alfa Romeo certainly has his impact with the high rake Ferrari car this weekend.
     
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