Insert objects problem

pelato · Oct 25, 2012

Sorry guys, I do not know if this is the right place for this topic.
If I'm wrong, tell me and re-post in the right place.
I have a little problem with BTB: I can not insert an object, more than
once. He says: "Read error memory" or "attempt to write or read
protected memory "or something like that. Someone can help me?
Thank you very much!

Barbje_Keller · Nov 5, 2012

you must post much more details about BTB and 3d model format, what you want insert on

pelato · Nov 10, 2012

Barbje_Keller said:
you must post much more details about BTB and 3d model format, what you want insert on

Hi Barbje! BTB says this:************** Exception Text **************
System.AccessViolationException: Attempted to read or write protected memory. This is often an indication that other memory is corrupt.
in Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3D.Device.DrawIndexedPrimitives(PrimitiveType primitiveType, Int32 baseVertex, Int32 minVertexIndex, Int32 numVertices, Int32 startIndex, Int32 primCount)
in BobsTrackBuilder.frmMain.DrawPanel3d_ObjectsInstanced(View& v, Boolean Solid)
in BobsTrackBuilder.frmMain.DrawPanel_3d(View v)
in BobsTrackBuilder.frmMain.DrawPanel(View& v)
in BobsTrackBuilder.frmMain.DrawAll()
in BobsTrackBuilder.frmObjects.AddByLasso(View v, List`1 LassoPositions, Boolean UnselectAllFirst)
in BobsTrackBuilder.frmMain.pnl3d_MouseUp(Object sender, MouseEventArgs e)
in System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs e)
in System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
in System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
in System.Windows.Forms.ScrollableControl.WndProc(Message& m)
in System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
in System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
in System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)

is written in Italian (I'm italian). every time I try to insert an object more than once, this text will appear.I can add, only one object for each type. I mean, one tree for each type, one grass for each type, one house for each type.... the Sobject however, I can insert them normally. also, it let me chose if exit or to try to continue.
I using BTB for Rfactor track.

Do you have some idea?

Lee Knight · Nov 10, 2012

I don't know whats happening there, BUT, have you tried to Copy an object once it is placed?
Once you have placed/inserted the first object, change 'Objects' tab from 'Add' to 'Edit' & then with the 'Move' button selected hold 'C' on keyboard & then click & drag on the object you wish to copy.
If you have a group of objects you wish to copy then left click the mouse while circling them, hold 'C' & then click & drag them...
That should get you on your way until we can work out what's gone wrong with that other stuff above....

pelato · Nov 10, 2012

Lee Knight said:
I don't know whats happening there, BUT, have you tried to Copy an object once it is placed?
Once you have placed/inserted the first object, change 'Objects' tab from 'Add' to 'Edit' & then with the 'Move' button selected hold 'C' on keyboard & then click & drag on the object you wish to copy.
If you have a group of objects you wish to copy then left click the mouse while circling them, hold 'C' & then click & drag them...
That should get you on your way until we can work out what's gone wrong with that other stuff above....

thank you, Lee Knight!
but I still have the same problem!
this time is written: ************** exception Text**************
application Error.
-2005530516 (D3DERR_INVALIDCALL)
in Microsoft.DirectX.Direct3D.Device.BeginScene()
in BobsTrackBuilder.frmMain.DrawPanel_3d(View v)
in BobsTrackBuilder.frmMain.DrawPanel(View& v)
in BobsTrackBuilder.frmMain.DrawAll()
in BobsTrackBuilder.frmObjects.MoveObjects(Int32 MouseX, Int32 MouseY, View v, Boolean ShiftKeyHeld)
in BobsTrackBuilder.frmMain.pnl3d_MouseMove(Object sender, MouseEventArgs e)
in System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnMouseMove(MouseEventArgs e)
in System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseMove(Message& m)
in System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
in System.Windows.Forms.ScrollableControl.WndProc(Message& m)
in System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
in System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
in System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)

Barbje_Keller · Nov 12, 2012

Can you make thumbnail of this object?

pelato · Nov 12, 2012

Barbje_Keller said:
Can you make thumbnail of this object?

Sorry Barbje, I don't understand what you mean!
You want to see the thumbails of the objects that I want to insert?

Barbje_Keller · Nov 12, 2012

Yes I want to see, what model will make problem in BTB. And what 3D file format he have (collada or 3ds)? How many polygon on it? Do you leave dubble texture side on it, what is the mapping method...

pelato · Nov 13, 2012

Barbje_Keller said:
Yes I want to see, what model will make problem in BTB. And what 3D file format he have (collada or 3ds)? How many polygon on it? Do you leave dubble texture side on it, what is the mapping method...

sorry man! I do not know what you're talking about. I am less than a beginner in these things! The only thing I can tell you is what xpacks, I use:
apartment
basic city xpack v1
buildings
chainfence
cicada buildings
common
crowds
ennis objects
great britain rbr
guarda
houses
lighthorse xp
longford 67 houses
mauropack
mochetas sr
nl pack pit tents
objects poland
old church
pl trees
racetrucks
rrw case
rural australia
smes pack
track lights
trackside objects
trees pack

in all these packs, all the objects I can
isert only once.
with the SObjects, I have no problems.
I would call my track "the forest". but a forest without trees, what kind of forest is?

Thank you for your interest!

Barbje_Keller · Nov 13, 2012

uff.., ok, now we know - you don't make any new model.

You must to know, that if you add too much model in yours project BTB can't work properly too (out of memory it is). You must decide what is important for you and leave only this. More details in close distance and low in middle and long range.Next point is if you used so much xpacks in yours project look on it what size (in Mb) he have (...\BTB program\My Projects\??)
Second, look may you want put new objects on "non BTB Ground (can place objects upon it)" surface?
If it not help can you make some yours project archiv and show for us

Lee Knight · Nov 13, 2012

Try cutting back on un-used Xpacks via the Xpacks menu....
(Un-tick the ones that say not in use.)
This will free things up maybe & will also make file smaller to share if need be...
ie; if problem persists...
Let us know how this goes for you...

pelato · Nov 14, 2012

Guys! I tried to make a small track with only 3 turns, just to try your advice. I only used the default XPack, I popped the possibility of inserting objects on the surface. The problem persists whether I insert a single tree and then try to copy it, whether I insert 3 trees. after the third, still appears the inscription. I do not know really what to do!

Barbje_Keller · Nov 14, 2012

pelato said:
Guys! I tried to make a small track with only 3 turns, just to try your advice. I only used the default XPack, I popped the possibility of inserting objects on the surface. The problem persists whether I insert a single tree and then try to copy it, whether I insert 3 trees. after the third, still appears the inscription. I do not know really what to do!

Hmm, interesting situation, seems problem with yours software. One question - do you have licensed BTB? And do you install all required software (as framework...) for BTB. And on what PC system you run BTB, what VGA on it?

pelato · Nov 16, 2012

Barbje_Keller said:
Hmm, interesting situation, seems problem with yours software. One question - do you have licensed BTB? And do you install all required software (as framework...) for BTB. And on what PC system you run BTB, what VGA on it?

On my computer is running Vista, and the graphics card is the original.
Intel Pentium Dual CPU T3200 @ 2.00GHz 2,00GHz RAM 4,00GB
do you think the problem is this?

Barbje_Keller · Nov 16, 2012

and what about BTB and Net Framework?

pelato · Nov 17, 2012

Barbje_Keller said:
and what about BTB and Net Framework?

I'm sorry, I forgot! I installed the latest version of Framework (4.5), but the problem remains. My BTB I did not buy, gave it to me my friend. is cracked! I wanted to see how it works before buying it!
But if the problem is my graphics card, it is better that I give up!

Erwin Greven · Nov 18, 2012

I am convinced that you would have bought it when it would have worked..

pelato · Nov 19, 2012

Erwin Greven said:
I am convinced that you would have bought it when it would have worked..

Surely man! I think BTB is a very good product. But, if on my pc does not work, it is better if I give up!

Barbje_Keller · Nov 19, 2012

hard to say... You can try original BTB for free (I don't remember, one month limitation) version not cracked. And if you don't have any problem, you can buy it...

Lee Knight · Nov 19, 2012

14days before license is required...
You should be able to remove program & be able to keep projects, just be sure to back them up anyway as a precaution....