FIA announces 2010 F1 entry list

Lots of barking by Ferrari but in the end i dont see a * behind their names :)

What about all those other new teams that want to enter (March, Brabham etc) are they simply moved aside?
 
Lots of barking by Ferrari but in the end i dont see a * behind their names :)

...Witch is against their will, such as Red Bulls and Toro Rosso. In other words, nothing new have happend exept from the new teams who wont race if the 40 million budget cap is not being introduced. The list is useless.

"Ferrari submitted on 29 May 2009 an entry to the 2010 FIA Formula One World Championship which is subject to certain conditions," said the statement. "As of today, these conditions have not been met.

"Notwithstanding this and despite Ferrari's previous written notice to the FIA not to do so, the FIA has included Ferrari as an unconditional participant in next year's Formula One World Championship.

"For the avoidance of any doubt, Ferrari reaffirms that it shall not take part in the 2010 FIA Formula One World Championship under the regulations adopted by the FIA in violation of Ferrari's rights under a written agreement with the FIA.
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Man! Im getting so tired of this, But i think they will find a solution, i dont think their sponsors is so encouraged to follow the teams into a breakaway series...

2010 Season Entry
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Following the FIA’s publication of the entry list for the 2010 FIA Formula One World Championship, Red Bull Racing would like to make it clear that its entry was submitted as a conditional entry, consistent with those of all other FOTA members.
 
Well we know where this is going right? :)

FOTA asks WMSC to intervene in F1 row
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/76048
The Formula One Teams' Association (FOTA) has written to the FIA's Senate and World Motor Sport Council urging it to intervene in the row over entries to next year's championship, AUTOSPORT can reveal, as it warns the teams could be forced to walk away.

In an immediate response to the announcement by the FIA that FOTA's members have until June 19 to drop the conditions attached to their entries, the eight members of the teams' organisation pleaded for help in finding a 'swift solution' to the matter.

This comes despite Ferrari, Red Bull Racing and Scuderia Toro Rosso all having been handed full entries to next year's championship - in lieu of commercial agreements made with the FIA and FOM committing them to the sport.

The letter makes it clear these entries were made ‘against the will' of the teams involved.

In the letter, a copy of which has been seen by AUTOSPORT, the FOTA members state that the teams would ‘reluctantly' be forced to seek alternative solutions if the matter is not sorted out by next week.

"All of these teams are united in their concerns about the present situation and are deeply worried about the crisis that Formula 1 now faces, a crisis that appears to be self generated," wrote FOTA.

"The teams wish to find a swift solution to the situation, but in case this can not be done, they will reluctantly have to seek alternative solutions which protect them.

"In a final attempt to resolve this crisis, further meetings are scheduled for the next seven days. We would urge your support to ensure the outcome of these meetings achieves a solution that allows long established competitors to continue in their sport within a framework of sound governance and stability that will ensure the future and sustainability of Formula 1."

FOTA believes that it has not been ‘effective' in communicating with the governing body about its aims - and makes it clear that it wants to work in a ‘positive and constructive manner with the federation' to find a solution.

"Our fundamental wish is to work within a framework of cooperation and dialogue with the Federation to improve Formula 1 and to stop the confrontational and negative approach that has dominated the sport in recent years," the letter added.

"This approach compounded with constant announcements of regulatory changes, resulting from the unstable governance process that exists, has unfortunately created a situation of confusion and uncertainty among the public and sponsors. This situation is adversely affecting the business of both the teams and the organisers."

Furthermore, FOTA believes that the organisation's unhappiness about the way the sport is being run could be eased y the signing of a new Concorde Agreement.

"It is our view that by introducing the balanced and transparent basis of Governance which is defined in the 2009 Concorde Agreement (governance extract enclosed) we can restore a situation where the teams work in harmony with the Federation, a situation which can only be beneficial to all stakeholders.

"Accordingly, we have requested that the FIA join with FOM and the teams to sign a binding agreement that will bring stability at the very earliest opportunity, or alternatively, enter into a separate bi-lateral governance agreement between the teams and the FIA."

The letter added: "We wish to confirm that the teams are prepared to enter into binding commitment to enter in the championship until the end of 2012. This eliminates the misconception that certain teams are going to leave the sport and in doing this Formula 1 will establish a solid and stable platform for the future.

"All of the present competing teams in Formula 1 have significant investments in staff, factories and facilities. We request our level of commitment is respected and that we are allowed to address the changes needed due to the present economic climate in the most effective and efficient way for the participants with the correct governance from the regulatory body, the FIA.

"The existing FOTA teams understand the need to encourage and assist new entrants to the sport and we agree to undertake in good faith any reasonable measures that will help new teams establish their position in Formula 1."
 
Maybe I don't understand the situation fully as I've not been following this story throughout, but I don't see why the 40million cap can't be kept purely to the design of the car. What I mean is the chassis, body aero package suspension etc. Then allow the teams like ferrari who design and build the engines a seperate budget. As these teams are building engines for the entire grid not just themselves.

So affectively they'd have 40 million to design and build their car within the budget cap rules and policed as everyone else, yet a seperate or unlimited budget to design and build the engines that they'll use and supply. That way they wouldn't be disadvantaged by having to spread the cost of both within the cap or take the penalty for going over their budget and all teams would benefit from well developed engines.

I may be wrong, but that just seems a logical way of dealing with this.:dont-know:

Apologies if someone has already suggested this as I've not read all the thread:)
 
Manor are good team so thats good.

Provide = dissapointed they not there but their in negotiations about entering if another team drops out.

Lotus / Brabham, well both those teams where not really Lotus or Brabham, they was just trying to use the name and would of got sued anyway so no loss there.
 
As far as I know, Campos and Manor already have racing teams in other series'. Prodrive deal mainly with Rallying, so maybe that has something to do with it.

Well, Prodrive runs the three LMP1 LOLA-Aston Martin cars in the LeMans series, and they have been responsible for some GP2 cars to. But they had a spot on the 2008 calendar witch they throwed away, that may be why bernie didn't choose them.
 
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lots of stories popping up on autosport today.... looks like we're heading towards a car crash on friday....
 
ah and disaster it will be. look at how the us monoposto series ended up after the split some years ago: people could not tell the two brands apart and both sides suffered from it. same here: the average consumer won't be able to tell formula one with no red cars apart from formula racing with red cars, so numbers will go down for both of them. maybe it's just, that the idea of monoposto racing has gone its way and now the touring cars are going to take over :) (parallel to nascar assuming the leadership in america) how about a gt series with top manufacturer teams , top drivers and top media coverage? would beat formula one any day, i'd say.
 
For sure with the Le Mans result (best of petrol LMP1 I believe?) AM and Prodrive is looking a hot deal for F1. If not 2010, it will be soon. The FIA has sent out notes to the denied teams saying it's not over yet, things can still change at the end of all the dicussions and hearings, so stay firm.
 
The FIA GT were a brilliant series years ago, but the total lack of media coverage is killing it completely now :(

The organisator itself seems to have lost the spirit as well, only looking at the FIA GT website makes you wonder if it is still running or that the series died years ago.

But i am in the :plus1: group too with regards to LMP's replacing F1. Le Mans proved again (especially the ACO) how a race should be run.
 

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