DiRT Rally FFB tweak (no void)

Derinahon · Apr 29, 2015

That empty 10 - 2 position is now filled with glorious surface texture. Enjoy! Thanks Msportdan for the pad/wheel switch.

29/4
- Made some small changes to suspension and lateral settings.
30/4
- Updated to catch some feedback from tarmac
- Removed some overlap on suspension setting, feels cleaner now
- Reduced SelfAligningTorque - counter steering had too much resistance
- Switched collision settings to wheel; seems to add some nice effects
- Switched FFBSkid to wheel (these still need tweaking)

Steering resistance:

If anyone prefers the original resistance, change line 4 to:

<FFBEffectSelfAligningTorque device="wheel" scale="1.0"/>

or adjust to preference.

My wheel and settings:
T500RS default with 540 rotation.
In game:
Vibration 100
Strength 90
Weight 50

Open '\Steam\SteamApps\common\DiRT Rally\forcefeedback\effectsetup.xml' and replace contents entirely with the below. Make a backup of the original!

Code:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" ?>
<FFBEffects soloRampRate="1000" soloAttenuation="0">

   <FFBEffectSelfAligningTorque device="wheel" scale="0.5"/>

   <FFBlateral device="wheel" scale="1.0" velocityFactor="0.04" frictionGripScalar="55.0" frictionSurfaceScalar="6.5"/>

   <FFBCollision device="wheel" scale="0.75" thresholdLow="0.6" thresholdHigh="10.0" damageZone="0" freq="15.0" length="0.3" sample="smallCollisionWheel"/>
   <FFBCollision device="wheel" scale="0.75" thresholdLow="10.0" thresholdHigh="5000.0" damageZone="0" freq="10.0" length="0.6" sample="largeCollisionWheel"/>

   <FFBSuspension device="wheel" scale="0.12" thresholdLow=".07" thresholdHigh=".4" freq="7" length="0.4" sample="suspensionWheel"/>
   <FFBSuspension device="wheel" scale="0.18" thresholdLow=".4" thresholdHigh="2.5" freq="5" length="0.4" sample="suspensionWheel"/>
   <FFBSuspension device="wheel" scale="1.0" thresholdLow="2.5" thresholdHigh="20.0" freq="5" length="0.4" sample="suspensionWheel"/>

   <FFBCollision device="wheel" scale="0.07" thresholdLow="0.01" thresholdHigh="0.6" damageZone="0" freq="20.0" length="0.1" sample="scrapeCollisionLow"/>
   <FFBCollision device="wheel" scale="0.07" thresholdLow="0.01" thresholdHigh="0.6" damageZone="0" freq="20.0" length="0.1" sample="scrapeCollisionHigh"/>
   <FFBCollision device="wheel" scale="2.0" thresholdLow="0.6" thresholdHigh="10.0" damageZone="0" freq="15.0" length="0.2" sample="smallCollisionLow"/>
   <FFBCollision device="wheel" scale="2.0" thresholdLow="0.6" thresholdHigh="10.0" damageZone="0" freq="15.0" length="0.2" sample="smallCollisionHigh"/>
   <FFBCollision device="wheel" scale="2.5" thresholdLow="10.0" thresholdHigh="5000.0" damageZone="0" freq="10.0" length="0.5" sample="largeCollisionLow"/>
   <FFBCollision device="wheel" scale="2.5" thresholdLow="10.0" thresholdHigh="5000.0" damageZone="0" freq="10.0" length="0.5" sample="largeCollisionHigh"/>

   <FFBSkid device="wheel" scale="1.2" thresholdLow="0.9" thresholdHigh="1.1" thresholdMin="3.0" freqLow="4" freqHigh="30.0" load="1.0" length="0.2" sample="skidBack"/>
   <FFBSkid device="wheel" scale="1.6" thresholdLow="1.0" thresholdHigh="1.3" thresholdMin="3.0" freqLow="16.0" freqHigh="16.0" load="1.0" length="0.1" sample="skidFront"/>

   <FFBSuspension device="wheel" scale="0.25" thresholdLow="1.6" thresholdHigh="20.0" length="0.25" freq="7" sample="suspensionR1"/>
   <FFBSuspension device="wheel" scale="0.25" thresholdLow="1.6" thresholdHigh="20.0" length="0.25" freq="7" sample="suspensionL1"/>

   <FFBRevs device="wheel" scale="0.25" thresholdLow="0.1" thresholdHigh="1.2" freqLow="1" freqHigh="18.0" scaleLow="0.2" scaleHigh="0.95" length="0.05" sample="revEffect"/>

   <FFBSample name="scrapeCollisionLow" wave="9" envelope="61125521121"/>
   <FFBSample name="scrapeCollisionHigh" wave="9" envelope="98721" channel="1"/>

   <FFBSample name="smallCollisionLow" wave="9" envelope="986454321"/>
   <FFBSample name="smallCollisionLow" wave="9" envelope="982312531"/>
   <FFBSample name="smallCollisionHigh" wave="9" envelope="986454321" channel="1"/>
   <FFBSample name="smallCollisionHigh" wave="9" envelope="982312531" channel="1"/>

   <FFBSample name="skidBack" wave="9" envelope="0" channel="1" solo="1"/>
   <FFBSample name="skidFront" wave="9" envelope="9" channel="1" solo="1"/>
  
   <FFBSample name="largeCollisionLow" wave="9" envelope="98675462584" solo="1"/>
   <FFBSample name="largeCollisionLow" wave="9" envelope="98765432629" solo="1"/>
   <FFBSample name="largeCollisionHigh" wave="9" envelope="98675462594" channel="1" solo="1"/>
   <FFBSample name="largeCollisionHigh" wave="9" envelope="98765432628" channel="1" solo="1"/>

   <FFBSample name="suspensionR1" wave="9" envelope="9564720" channel="0"/>
   <FFBSample name="suspensionL1" wave="1" envelope="9564720" channel="1"/>

   <FFBSample name="revEffect" wave="91" envelope="9" channel="1"/>

   <FFBSample name="smallCollisionWheel" wave="124689" envelope="97654321000"/>
   <FFBSample name="largeCollisionWheel" wave="5697641345" envelope="9879987542312"/>

   <FFBSample name="suspensionWheel" wave="64" envelope="9"/>

</FFBEffects>

Deleted member 197115 · Apr 30, 2015

Andrew_WOT said:
Has anyone experienced issues with Simvibe and this profile?
For whatever reason from time to time it's causing transducers go berserk and vibrate non stop.

Seems like the latest version fixed that issue. May be simultaneous presence of "pad" and "wheel" controller in config was causing this, not sure.

Msportdan · Apr 30, 2015

with Ds new version ive lost the ffb when landing from jumps?!

anyone else?

this version http://www.racedepartment.com/threads/ffb-fixed.104679/#post-1991216
I feel the suspension better I prefer the previous version.

sorry bud

Derinahon · May 1, 2015

Msportdan said:
with Ds new version ive lost the ffb when landing from jumps?!

anyone else?

this version http://www.racedepartment.com/threads/ffb-fixed.104679/#post-1991216
I feel the suspension better I prefer the previous version.

sorry bud

I changed FFBSuspension line 12 from thresholdHigh="20.0" to thresholdHigh="2.5" because the next line covers 2.5 to 20 - could be that.
It might be FFBSkid blocking the effect as they're set 'solo="1"'. I'll play around.

duko · May 1, 2015

same here, stupid me, did not make a backup file of the old one

Angeltheartist · May 1, 2015

Sorry for the question how do i install new content . I have opened up the section , not sure how to remove original content to replace with updated content. Please help. Thank you.

wikke1984 · May 1, 2015

thx mate. works great for my G27
just my pro handbrake of ec simhardware is still not working... in dirt 3 she works very well

-WR- · May 1, 2015

Just want to say that I've done this tweak and I absolutely love it. I have the T300rs and it feel a lot better than originally. Great work!

Karl Brankin · May 1, 2015

Great Work - Thanks very much.

D - What settings do you use on the Thrustmaster profiler for Gain,nconstant, periodic and return to centre ?

Also what steering saturation do you use with 540 degrees rotation ?

I'm using a T300 GTE not a T500 but the settings generally translate well with a reduction in Gain or overall FFB strength in game.

Plus what is latest or best starting point for the settings.

Will be buying Dirt tonight and would like a good starting point to enjoy it rather than chasing around in circles with FFB and wheel settings.

Thanks again - I'm reading it is making a big difference and has persuaded me to buy it so Codies owe you. Would not be playable without passable FFB effects.

Cheers

-WR- · May 1, 2015

Karl Brankin said:
Great Work - Thanks very much.

D - What settings do you use on the Thrustmaster profiler for Gain,nconstant, periodic and return to centre ?

Also what steering saturation do you use with 540 degrees rotation ?

I'm using a T300 GTE not a T500 but the settings generally translate well with a reduction in Gain or overall FFB strength in game.

Plus what is latest or best starting point for the settings.

Will be buying Dirt tonight and would like a good starting point to enjoy it rather than chasing around in circles with FFB and wheel settings.

Thanks again - I'm reading it is making a big difference and has persuaded me to buy it so Codies owe you. Would not be playable without passable FFB effects.

Cheers

I also have the T300 and I found these settings, along with the tweak shared in this thread, to be very good (note that I use the Wheel Stand pro v2, so too strong of ffb would tilt the whole stand).

Wheel driver settings:
460 degrees <--- Forget this, I've changed to 540 degrees
Overall strength: 66%
Constant: 100%
Periodic: 100%
Spring: 0%
Damper: 0%

In game settings:
Vibration strength. 100%
Wheel strength: 100%
Wheel weight: 0%

All deadzones: 0%
All saturation: 100%
Linearity: -1

jimortality · May 1, 2015

Is anyone just using default settings from codies?

ThugUK · May 1, 2015

I don't appear to have any FFB at all.
I have tried all settings posted.
I use a G27.

NulTweeZes · May 1, 2015

When I get oversteer the ffb seems to be reversed? It resists my t500 to countersteer, while it should countersteer a bit from itself. Any way to get this working? To get the FFB more similar to rfactor with realfeel or LFS?

mister dog · May 1, 2015

@Derinahon thanks for saving the early access! Fixes the game for now.

Oreos · May 1, 2015

Disappointed with the opposite lock in this game, car doesn't counter steer it just locks up the wheel and you got to haul it back yourself.

Prefered your FFB to Codemasters though!

Deleted member 197115 · May 1, 2015

mister dog said:
@Derinahon thanks for saving the early access! Fixes the game for now.

"Saving early access" is the most spot on description of this "fix".
Thank you, thank you, thank you!

Hellracer234 · May 1, 2015

Please can some one help me with cam posission in Dirt Rally, i think cocpit cam is to far from dash bord and i dont want two stering wheels in front of me : ) And dashboard cam is to close to the windscrean, i want something in betwen. Thanks in advanse.
Bad englich i know, im from sweden : )

duko · May 1, 2015

Hellracer234 said:
Please can some one help me with cam posission in Dirt Rally, i think cocpit cam is to far from dash bord and i dont want two stering wheels in front of me : ) And dashboard cam is to close to the windscrean, i want something in betwen. Thanks in advanse.
Bad englich i know, im from sweden : )

http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/improved-dash-cams.6106/

Hellracer234 · May 1, 2015

duko said:
http://www.racedepartment.com/downloads/improved-dash-cams.6106/

Thanks!

jwoody8 · May 1, 2015

Hi guys, hope you can help. I have a G25 and have been using it in iracing for years with no issues. In Dirt Rally however I have this dead zone I can't seem to get rid of. Its not the feedback dead zone but actual reaction to the wheel in game.

Video attached to demonstrate what I mean

Thanks