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F1 | Mercedes Reveal New 2020 F1 Livery

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I never said this look isn't good for you, I just said that this conversation has LITERALLY NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS WEBSITE.
 
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So far i don't see any hatred or bigotry or racism coming from those who disagree with all this "message" painted on EVERYTHING, which, from what i see, is the majority. We all said that political messages should stay away from sports. Especially divisive ones like this.
The only hatred and anger that i see so far in this discussion comes mainly from those who are in agreement with this "message" and the way it's being promoted.
Go ahead and shove it down our throats. Calling us racists and hostile while in truth we are being very calm, polite and civil.....just makes you an agitator.
Oh yes, people who support BLM are the racist ones, keep going.
 

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I never said this look isn't good for you, I just said that this conversation has LITERALLY NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS WEBSITE.
I don't see any sign up there saying that only discussions related to wheels and engines are allowed. And don't think that we don't see what you're doing right now.
We managed to keep the discussion quite clean and civil, and here you are calling everyone racist and toxic and even accusing RD for supporting it. It's like calling RD racist and hostile. DUH.
At this point yeah i think this thread should be locked because you're trying to stir things up, like you BLM supporters always do.
That's all from me. Peace.
 

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I don't see any sign up there saying that only discussions related to wheels and engines are allowed. And don't think that we don't see what you're doing right now.
We managed to keep the discussion quite clean and civil, and here you are calling everyone racist and toxic and even accusing RD for supporting it. It's like calling RD racist and hostile. DUH.
At this point yeah i think this thread should be locked because you're trying to stir things up, like you BLM supporters always do.
That's all from me. Peace.
Well said.
 

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I don't think people object to equal rights or abolishing racism, people object to having a load of BS shoved down their throats. Supposedly in the US (if you believe the media and BLM) police execution squads are going round killing people as a general trend. Take your paragraph above about black on black crime. Now google "Expanded homicide data table 6 2018" The first result will take you to the genuine FBI homicide statistics by ethnicity which shows you amongst other things that...

3315 white people were murdered, 514 perpetrators were Black/African American
2925 Black/African American people were murdered, 234 perpetrators were white.

Keep in mind that the black population as you stated is at least 4x smaller than the white population, yet the guilty party in interracial murders is Black/African American more than twice as often.
So who is more responsible for not valuing the lives of others?

Do the same with the 2017 statistics.
The numbers are..

3567 white people were murdered, 576 perpetrators of Black/African American backgrounds.
2970 black people murdered, 264 white perpetrators.

Again, more than 2x the number of interracial murders committed.

Whilst BLM were out lionising George Floyd, a convicted criminal, calling for the police to be defunded, David Dorn was killed - a REAL black hero, and nobody knows his name. In Chicago, whilst police were busy with the protests, the city had its deadliest day ever, with 18 murders of innocent black victims within 24 hours. That's what the American inner cities will look like with less police. If BLM focussed on this, the real issue, instead of ignoring it and blaming whites or the system, then more people would take it seriously and be onboard with it. Black lives matter of course, but that should start in black communities.
Not to make the bads cops look better, but a police officer gets killed in the US roughly once every other day.. Imagine being on the force for 10 years. How many colleagues you seen or heard about that never returned home, or not as the person they used to be. Thats more than a 1000 in a decade.
Every car window you open can be a live threatening situation within a split second.
Everybody there can be a potential armed villian, the US can kill it self 10 times with all the stockpiles of arms and ammunition almost freely available there in unlimited amounts.
 

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again An opinion or political things should not be promoted in sports, people watch that so they can relax and enjoy life, get away from the stress and bullshit from the daily routine.
Unfortunately a certain group found out they can manipulate big business (sports included) with some stuff. "Won't you say or do something about x? Then you are xphobic or xracist" etc. They found the perfect formula and this is starting to get into simracing too. And most of the PR guys in these business are part of the mass. So we may have to get used to it for a while.
Ofc the ones pushing the strings behind all this are the same people the manipulated mass protest against on streets ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
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I never said this look isn't good for you, I just said that this conversation has LITERALLY NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS WEBSITE.
If the members of this site are so hostile to the colour of a car and can say some really horrible things on a public forum it has everything to do with this site. And it should be open to the world to see what the community thinks and how RD stands by. There's too many offensive posts to even report.

This site has sponsors. If you like and value this site you should consider they'll have a harder time doing that without that money if you post or support racism. They're also trying to build a community. Do you want others to join? What kind of folks do you want them to be? You may not find offensive but a lot of folks do and right now not a lot of sponsors care to be associated with the freedom to promote hate. it's not a threat Turbo86. It's life. Racism hip anymore.

You wanna know why I don't join events or support the site with some more $$$? because it's not inclusive. it's not a safe space. and there's no reason it shouldn't be safe and good other than the same old reasons like "this is no place to deal with racism" and "there's no racism"!
 
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??? I think you are mistaking, I'm agreeing with you as I think that there is a lot of offensive stuff being said here.
 

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I don't see any sign up there saying that only discussions related to wheels and engines are allowed. And don't think that we don't see what you're doing right now.
We managed to keep the discussion quite clean and civil, and here you are calling everyone racist and toxic and even accusing RD for supporting it. It's like calling RD racist and hostile. DUH.
At this point yeah i think this thread should be locked because you're trying to stir things up, like you BLM supporters always do.
That's all from me. Peace.
This is going to be my last post in this thread because the arguing keeps going back and forth and nothing good is coming of it.

turbo86, I never said anything about the RD staff besides requesting for them to lock the thread. Also you don't have the right to say whatever you want without being criticized. And you can't complain about being called racist when you and others keep making theories and heavily insulting movements like BLM the way you are. Also you weren't being exactly civil either even if you were trying to as you and others were making many insensitive comments that were upsetting people such as the person quoted below
@Paul Jeffrey @Paul Glover please just lock the thread. I was happy when I saw the livery this morning, but I KNEW this would happen...

  • I'm tired of people not understanding why we would "dare" to stand up for our right to live a peaceful life.
  • I'm tired of having to explain to ignorant people of all races why this matters.
  • I'm tired of explaining that we are not saying "ONLY black lives matter".
  • I'm tired of being another thing to poke fun at (Oh so do we paint <"random thing or person> black too?") since sarcasm is the only reaction some people choose to give and not a helping hand.
  • I'm tired of people who talk up a storm on how this is NOT the proper way to end racism...like there's a manual for this crap. "Dear Black people: once again, you're doing it all wrong..."
  • I'm tired of the tired rhetoric of "just work on it with the people around you and it will change over time"...500 years later....
  • I'm tired of the "Oh look, Lewis <or any other rich minority> managed to be successful, so just do it!"...not realising that they were the exceptions that defied the system.
  • I'm tired of all the "...but what about..." people, who think "everything must be perfectly aligned to be a credible platform...no company, country or person should dare say anything about injustice if they don't have a squeaky clean history...and even then, they must mention ALL INJUSTICES. EVER."

Those of you who can't get behind the global movement towards tolerance and can't see what's more obvious than it's ever been throughout history: .we're tired of doing things your way and for the first time in history, we have evidence of all the BS we go through.

We protest in the streets for a few weeks, but we also get killed/abused/raped/robbed/imprisoned for CENTURIES by people who think more about their dogs and cats than us...and now #BlackLivesMatter ARE THE TERRORISTS?!?!

See this? I'm not the only one here who has a problem with what is being said.
 
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So are all other teams expected to paint their cars black, in order to follow Mercedes' lead, if it is deemed that Mercedes are 'sending a message to the rest of the paddock'.

What about other ethnic minorities other than Blacks, are they also not part of this whole racism issue? I'm sure it is more than just a Black and White issue.

If black cars are the future to sending out a message against racism, then Henry Ford was a genius.
Henry Ford was a big Nazi fan, apparently all Ford car sales money made in Germany prior to the Nazi party being elected to power was donated to the party, as well as Henry giving his mate Adolf a wad of cash for his birthday, was even awarded a medal from his mate for his contributions and support for the party. When the U.S.A declared war he severed ties and went into making aircraft for the America.
They tend to keep stuff like that quiet.
 

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I am honestly taken back by some of the comments in here. If your first thought was anything race related about this car, congratulations, you're a racist. My first thought was "Oh look an AMG". AMG launch cars from what I remember were always black or the most popular color for an AMG.

By the way, it is their company. They pay the bills, they can do whatever they like.
 

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Black is beatifull, especially on a racecar. But I hope their cooling can cope with the higher heat that might be generated on sunny days at high altitudes. Much less energy gets reflected.
As Mercedes had troubles before with their cooling due to the tight package they run.
So back on topic...
 
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I am honestly taken back by some of the comments in here. If your first thought was anything race related about this car, congratulations, you're a racist. My first thought was "Oh look an AMG". AMG launch cars from what I remember were always black or the most popular color for an AMG.

By the way, it is their company. They pay the bills, they can do whatever they like.
Did you read the tweet or just looked at the car and decided to comment?
 

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