F1 | Grosjean and Magnussen Exit Haas

Nick Hill

Premium
1,287
1,755
Denver, USA
Put Mario Andretti in the car. Being in a Haas is not a career defining move, but with Mario that would at least give them an American Champion in the car. Would not happen any other way, but would love to see that.
But he was born in Italy! Actually, where he was born is now in Croatia! I am confused and can't stop shouting! Colton Herta!
 
No big surprise. I always said that one of Haas' problems was their subpar drivers lineup. Grosjean showed some promise when he joined the team 5 years ago but he steadily regressed over time. I'm sure Steiner is glad he won't have to listen to his constant whining over the radio. Magnussen never justified his place in F1 and he's a midfield driver at best.

Neither driver was able to push the team forward, in fact it got worse and it's only logical they're going for a reset.

Seems like Grosjean is going to the WEC or Formula E. Magnussen is thinking about Indycar.
 
Last edited:

Sasha Jednak

Sasa Jednak
Premium
3,081
1,339
Didn't expect Magnussen to go too, but I guess he didn't do to well on feedback part. He's not top tier but for me he is in tier2 with Hulk and Perez. As for Grosjean, this should have happened at least 2 years ago. Had some speed in pre-hybrid era, but not after that.
I guess it is one Ferrari junior + money for next year. There is simply not enough places for all drivers that can race competitively in F1. Luckily there are other series where they can actually race for wins. :roflmao:
Good luck to these two in whatever they choose next and good luck to us with whatever Haas chooses next.
 

butcher85

Premium
65
78
London
Both drivers are quick and experienced and deserving a place on the grid, if not championship winners.

The fact that they both got the chop screams to me that Haas have lined up some pay drivers

Pretty soon we'll have a grid full of Strolls and Latifis while the Hulkenburgs and Perezes look elsewhere
 
Last edited:
not my doing, but I LOL’d pretty hard :roflmao:

5A687165-3F41-4936-B1E0-5D147501CF09.jpeg
 
35
32
And Grosjean goes, letting the biggest mystery of the 21st century unsolved: why do people hate him that much and always think about him first as the worst driver on the grid or the first one who should be fired?...

I've the feeling people made their mind about him years ago after a couple of big mistakes, what they didn't do with other drivers doing such mistakes, and just ignore what he did good or when the car is responsible of him not doing good, and never even asked themselves if they were right to hate him and if it was indeed the worst driver on the grid, encouraging each other to continue the hate.

He is clearly one of the quick ones, often did better, especially in qualif, than the car was supposed to be able to do (and having a terrible and inconsistent car helps a lot to struggle to be quick every weekend lately, way more than with average cars, he did great with Lotus or in first couple years with Haas, and still does great laps from time to time), but no one cares.
He's better in many aspects (driving skill, behavior and/or standing out with the car he has) than many other drivers on the grid (Stroll, Magnussen, Kvyat, Giovinazzi) but is considered worse by most people.

I wonder what it would have been like if he had stayed at Renault (maybe he would have been fired for Riccardo or Ocon, maybe he would be the first driver of the team now, who knows...).

I won't shed a tear for him, he's still one of the luckiest guys in the world, but I don't understand the hate at all.

Now I'm curious to see which drivers will have their career destroyed by Haas :)
 
Last edited:
The car is a long way behind on development and not that good. George Russell is geting dumped by Williams, but it will be the same runing around at the back. At least tell new airo comes in, this may ballance feild. Rusell belongs in mid pack.
 
That sounds a bit like Jeremy Clarkson's way of looking at Scottish drivers.

Jim Clark - British
Jackie Stewart - British
David Coulthard - Scottish
Sorry they are all technicaly all Scotish. The Queen conquered the scots and the Northern Irish and welsh. To form the United Kindom. So in statistics they are listed as GB. That way they can get OBE. The royal family and intrest in them has gone downhill over years. Scotland has there own goverment. And many like myself could not care less what the Queen thinks or dose.
 

Daniel Monteiro

Staff
Premium
2,298
1,050
Sorry they are all technicaly all Scotish. The Queen conquered the scots and the Northern Irish and welsh. To form the United Kindom. So in statistics they are listed as GB. That way they can get OBE. The royal family and intrest in them has gone downhill over years. Scotland has there own goverment. And many like myself could not care less what the Queen thinks or dose.

I don't think you got the point :rolleyes:

If a Scottish driver becomes world champion or becomes a legend, then the British media mention him as British. If a Scottish drivers is good, wins a couple of races, but that's it, then the British media mention him as Scottish - how convenient :geek:
 

Daniel Monteiro

Staff
Premium
2,298
1,050
Back on topic though: regardless of who comes in, it will be a good shake up to the grid, although personally I'd like to see some new blood instead of returning veterans.
 
Good luck to both in their next endeavors.

However, I wonder about the logic behind having two rookies at the same time in a team that seems to have car development issues.

Would it not be better to have at least one experienced driver to help them get a clue about what is wrong with the car?
 

Badwheels

Premium
144
511
I just wanted to announce that I have been testing for Haas on F1 2020. They have been very impressed with my ability to miss apexes, kill the engine in the pits, provide no meaningful feedback on the cars performance and flat spot tires over and over.

I have in hand an offer for next season at the princely sum of 10 Euros.
 

Are you on VR, Triple Monitors, Ultrawides or ... ?

  • VR

    Votes: 337 36.6%
  • Triples

    Votes: 167 18.1%
  • Ultrawide

    Votes: 199 21.6%
  • Single Screen / Other

    Votes: 219 23.8%
Top