Misc F1 2019 Ultra grip & car stability Update 5

dazzzzzzer · Aug 8, 2019

"Grip multiplier to 10 or 30 gives faster cars to second per lap, but 100 it's too much - try it.

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Thats interesting to hear, i might try something like 30.000000 later today and see if it keeps them from sliding off as much as they do when they brake late on certain bends, making the whole game realistic by making up their lost time whilst losing it on some corners by having better grip generally.......very interesting, because then when crashes happen due to the braking late at corners, its gonna look genuinely as if its an AI mistake !!

StrongestFish · Aug 8, 2019

dazzzzzzer said:
People would know its your creation anyway!!

If you will find good balance, then you could just upload and write about cooperation

dazzzzzzer said:
Thats interesting to hear, i might try something like 30.000000 later today and see if it keeps them from sliding off as much as they do when they brake late on certain bends, making the whole game realistic by making up their lost time whilst losing it on some corners by having better grip generally.......very interesting, because then when crashes happen due to the braking late at corners, its gonna look genuinely as if its an AI mistake !!

interesting and promising.

dazzzzzzer · Aug 9, 2019

I ended up doing a combined

MaxGripMultiplier value=10.000000 (better grip to stop them going off to far from the track)
<BrakePressureMin value="0.55" /> (needs to be 0.6 for RedBull Aston Martin)
<BrakePressureMax value="0.55" /> (needs to be 0.6 for RedBull Aston Martin)

I didn't use your other Slipstream parameter changes in the latest tests, and with the above the cars brake nice and late, which was the plan, with less changes in the XML.

The above settings work well, every bend has a part or two flying off, and DNF's are not over the top in a Race, but definitely more what "appear" (lol) to be AI mistakes with these set. I will post it as a download sometime soon and credit your good self, but I have an important extra question for you:-

I am adamant that there is a way, other than using the weird Damping dancing/wobbling/jumping parameters, to make the Cars go more airborne and almost flip over during crashes.................do you know which parameter(s) in the whole XML control this? I know your Chassis settings as per this Mod I am replying on give the Chassis more downward grip, but I tried making the Chassis "lighter" by lowering all of these to these values:-

<MOIX value="500" />
<MOIY value="2200" />
<MOIZ value="150" />
<COMY value="0.02" />
<COMZ value="0.05" />
<InertiaScaleLowSpeedThreshold value="-0.5" />
<InertiaScaleMidSpeedThreshold value="15" />
<InertiaScaleHighSpeedThreshold value="66" />

....and so far, no Car is being made to go airborne still in a crash, which was my hope to create more spectacular crashes but with them dancing!!

I might now try the Mass Value setting, see if that really is about the "weight" of the Car...

StrongestFish · Aug 9, 2019

dazzzzzzer said:
The above settings work well, every bend has a part or two flying off, and DNF's are not over the top in a Race, but definitely more what "appear" (lol) to be AI mistakes with these set. I will post it as a download sometime soon and credit your good self, but I have an important extra question for you:-

I am adamant that there is a way, other than using the weird Damping dancing/wobbling/jumping parameters, to make the Cars go more airborne and almost flip over during crashes.................do you know which parameter(s) in the whole XML control this? I know your Chassis settings as per this Mod I am replying on give the Chassis more downward grip, but I tried making the Chassis "lighter" by lowering all of these to these values:-

<MOIX value="500" />
<MOIY value="2200" />
<MOIZ value="150" />
<COMY value="0.02" />
<COMZ value="0.05" />
<InertiaScaleLowSpeedThreshold value="-0.5" />
<InertiaScaleMidSpeedThreshold value="15" />
<InertiaScaleHighSpeedThreshold value="66" />

....and so far, no Car is being made to go airborne still in a crash, which was my hope to create more spectacular crashes but with them dancing!!

I might now try the Mass Value setting, see if that really is about the "weight" of the Car...

Long time ago I dreamed of doing easy roll-overs like in Project Cars or Pinball mod for Wreckfest, but didn't...
Once I tried set AntiRollConstant to negative + ConstantDamping to -2000 and have somewhat like on screenshot. Also i know that InertiaScale Y - it's vertical axis. Maybe you can do something good, if you will try combine all this parameters.

StrongestFish · Aug 14, 2019

StrongestFish updated F1 2019 Ultra grip & car stability with a new update entry:

Update 2

Updated for patch 1.08

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StrongestFish · Sep 12, 2019

StrongestFish updated F1 2019 Ultra grip & car stability with a new update entry:

Increased

Increased car stability. Now it's truely ultra car stability.

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MariA7X · Sep 15, 2019

What value or line do I have to edit to increase the maximum straight car speed?

StrongestFish · Sep 15, 2019

MariA7X said:
What value or line do I have to edit to increase the maximum straight car speed?

Increase engine power - bigger Y numbers(all 18 vertices)
<Engine>
<RevsPowerSpline numVertices="18">
<SplineElement x="0" y="0" op="=" />
<SplineElement x="69.9528" y="7910.1468370014991" op="=" />
<SplineElement x="121.655289" y="20028.977040683567" op="=" />
<SplineElement x="176.0811" y="37716.45019379881" op="=" />
<SplineElement x="247.059937" y="67580.075107468729" op="=" />

Or decrease drag - decrease this numbers(only main two numbers, not in upgrades section)
(Ferrari)
<F1Aero>
<m_aero_cd_min value="0.955500066" />
<m_aero_cd_max value="0.92635" />

Even negative numbers working, video for example, but it's too much

MariA7X · Sep 15, 2019

StrongestFish said:
Increase engine power - bigger Y numbers(all 18 vertices)
<Engine>
<RevsPowerSpline numVertices="18">
<SplineElement x="0" y="0" op="=" />
<SplineElement x="69.9528" y="7910.1468370014991" op="=" />
<SplineElement x="121.655289" y="20028.977040683567" op="=" />
<SplineElement x="176.0811" y="37716.45019379881" op="=" />
<SplineElement x="247.059937" y="67580.075107468729" op="=" />

Or decrease drag - decrease this numbers(only main two numbers, not in upgrades section)
(Ferrari)
<F1Aero>
<m_aero_cd_min value="0.955500066" />
<m_aero_cd_max value="0.92635" />

Even negative numbers working, video for example, but it's too much

"numVertices" the higher the number the more power the engine will get? and the numbers "y" have to all be increased?

StrongestFish · Sep 15, 2019

MariA7X said:
"numVertices" the higher the number the more power the engine will get? and the numbers "y" have to all be increased?

Yes, all Y numbers bigger = more engine power.

MariA7X · Sep 15, 2019

StrongestFish said:
Yes, all Y numbers bigger = more engine power.

I increased it, but it reaches a speed of 345 km / h and slows down, it is falling slowly, it seems that it only arrives at that speed and starts to slow, I would like higher speeds, 370kmh for example

StrongestFish · Sep 16, 2019

MariA7X said:
I increased it, but it reaches a speed of 345 km / h and slows down, it is falling slowly, it seems that it only arrives at that speed and starts to slow, I would like higher speeds, 370kmh for example

Then change drag value.

StrongestFish · Sep 27, 2019

StrongestFish updated F1 2019 Ultra grip & car stability with a new update entry:

Upd

Updated for patch 1.12

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StrongestFish · Oct 25, 2019

StrongestFish updated F1 2019 Ultra grip & car stability with a new update entry:

Update 5

Updated for patch 1.15

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morsify · Oct 25, 2019

Hi, good job on these tyre adjustments. Do Ryders editing tools work with this the same as previous F1 games?
thanks

StrongestFish · Oct 25, 2019

Keith Windsor said:
Hi, good job on these tyre adjustments. Do Ryders editing tools work with this the same as previous F1 games?
thanks

Hi, thanks.
For F1 2019 works only Ego ERP Archiver.

morsify · Oct 25, 2019

I really enjoy F1 2017 but just needed to edit the wet grip slightly.

So I was pleased to see your 2019 mods appear, as I can hopefully do the same in '19 if I ever need to.

Thanks for replying

Mia2s · Dec 11, 2019

Can you incorporate this with the extreme damage mod?

StrongestFish · Dec 12, 2019

Mia2s said:
Can you incorporate this with the extreme damage mod?

You can do it by yourself.
Open xml for manual install from damage mod and xml's from this mod.
Find sections with lines <F1SuspensionDamage>, <F1WingDamage> and copy all parameters from this sections from damage to grip mod. Do manual install and done.

Mia2s · Dec 12, 2019

StrongestFish said:
You can do it by yourself.
Open xml for manual install from damage mod and xml's from this mod.
Find sections with lines <F1SuspensionDamage>, <F1WingDamage> and copy all parameters from this sections from damage to grip mod. Do manual install and done.

Thanks. Can it be possible to edit tyre punctures to happen when the tyre comes in contact with debris or wall?