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Largly agree but there is a minority who consistantly go too far it seems, otherwise we wouldn't have the calls for "safe spaces" and some members of minorities becoming militant and trying to fight fire with fire. Humans need policing, but the policing needs to be fair and not OTT.

It's just a shame that many feel the need to segregate because of a minority of dbags!
I tend to go full-libertarian and don't fell the need to "police" people (on speech), specially over internet discussions. But it's me... my personal experience taught me that way. Specially because of dbags, that need to get exposed and have their ideas confronted until they fade away. Every time you silence someone before it, the only thing that happens is fortify sht ideas inside their niche, that is also a safe-space that shells their idiocy from the light of reason. And we never really knew if we ain't the idiots lol. I caught myself, in the past, defending a lot of nonsense, but just because I was inside a safe-pace and there was no one there to confront my stupidity. Safe-spaces are comparable to what happens on Allan Poe's "The Mask of the Red Death"... it's a very good allegory to a lot of things that happen today... I really recommend the reading for folks that didn't already.

The biggest barrier for females trying to be successful sim racers is the same one as darts & snooker.There are simply to many men willing to practice for long hours indoors looking at a screen just to get good at their hobby.
It's the same difficulty to everybody, myself (white straight man included). But there are girls that play much better than men... but not because their sex, just because they have more talent and, specially, put more effort over it.
 
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I tend to go full-libertarian and don't fell the need to "police" people (on speech), specially over internet discussions. But it's me... my personal experience taught me that way. Specially because of dbags, that need to get exposed and have their ideas confronted until they fade away. Every time you silence someone before it, the only thing that happens is fortify sht ideas inside their niche, that is also a safe-space that shells their idiocy from the light of reason. And we never really knew if we ain't the idiots lol. I caught myself, in the past, defending a lot of nonsense, but just because I was inside a safe-pace and there was no one there to confront my stupidity. Safe-spaces are comparable to what happens on Allan Poe's "The Mask of the Red Death"... it's a very good allegory to a lot of things that happen today... I really recommend the reading for folks that didn't already.
Just to reiterate I'm not about censoring ideas, speech and discourse. I'm only talking about insults. People can disagree and debate without insults. I do see your point about the problem of forcing people into echo chambers reinforcing their beliefs. But again it's a minority that can't debate without knuckle dragging insults, get rid of that minority and allow the other dissenting voices that don't resort to insults to speak their mind and we can all have healthy discourse and try to find common ground, something that is very lacking in modern society and social media with division in the Western World getting worse year on year IMO. And it's important to note that the liberal left are just as insulting to those they disagree with.
 
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Just to reiterate I'm not about censoring ideas, speech and discourse. I'm only talking about insults. People can disagree and debate without insults. I do see your point about the problem of forcing people into echo chambers reinforcing their beliefs. But again it's a minority that can't debate without knuckle dragging insults, get rid of that minority and allow the other dissenting voices that don't resort to insults to speak their mind and we can all have healthy discourse and try to find common ground, something that is very lacking in modern society and social media with division in the Western World getting worse year on year IMO. And it's important to note that the liberal left are just as insulting to those they disagree with.
IMHO, there is no such thing as "insult"... it's hard to learn, but you may understand that as long as you don't mind, the words wont hurt you. Usually, the insult tells much more about the offender than the offended.

Even them... specially the insult shouldn't be policed, because it's all emotional and subjective stuff. People start insulting each other when they are thinking with the lowest layer of their social skills. When it happens, in my experience, is easier to let them exhaust this feelings or be ashamed by themselves than policing them. They can even find some empathy between each other (yes, it's counter intuitive... but happens a lot).

When you do otherwise and police them, the first instinct of theirs will be turn that into a competition and they will start to look for veiled ways to attack each other, what will start to turn health discussions (by third parties) into completely cr4p.

Ban the insulting parties is not a good thing, because even good forum users can have their very bad days and, specially in this forum, we had a lot of non English speakers (like myself, as everybody already realized by now lol), so a lot of misunderstanding comes from what is lost on translation... well, even between same language speakers, text can easily turn into a barrier. So, we don't need to get that emotional about cursing and things like that.

And you used Liberals as an example, and I think it's the best. A lot of their ideas come from subjective and emotional places... that's why they tend to be that aggressive about everything (and not that Conservatives or even The Libertarian Master Race don't go there, just not as frequently).

Cheers!
 
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IMHO, there is no such thing as "insult"... it's hard to learn, but you may understand that as long as you don't mind, the words wont hurt you. Usually, the insult tells much more about the offender than the offended.

Even them... specially the insult shouldn't be policed, because it's all emotional and subjective stuff. People start insulting each other when they are thinking with the lowest layer of their social skills. When it happens, in my experience, is easier to let them exhaust this feelings or be ashamed by themselves than policing them. They can even find some empathy between each other (yes, it's counter intuitive... but happens a lot).

When you do otherwise and police them, the first instinct of theirs will be turn that into a competition and they will start to look for veiled ways to attack each other, what will start to turn health discussions (by third parties) into completely cr4p.

Ban the insulting parties is not a good thing, because even good forum users can have their very bad days and, specially in this forum, we had a lot of non English speakers (like myself, as everybody already realized by now lol), so a lot of misunderstanding comes from what is lost on translation... well, even between same language speakers, text can easily turn into a barrier. So, we don't need to get that emotional about cursing and things like that.

And you used Liberals as an example, and I think it's the best. A lot of their ideas come from subjective and emotional places... that's why they tend to be that aggressive about everything (and not that Conservatives or even The Libertarian Master Race don't go there, just not as frequently).

Cheers!
I can agree up to a point, but there's a certain level (and I agree non native language speakers will cross a line inadvertantly and should be cut a degree of slack) which is unacceptable IMO, and to me in my many arguments online (I've had a few LOL, best day was when I was slagged off for being a commie on one forum and a Nazi on another;) ) It's very clear when a line has been crossed, we can't have complete freedom, humanity needs some rules....they just need to be flexible when needed as things are often not black and white.
 
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I can agree up to a point, but there's a certain level (and I agree non native language speakers will cross a line inadvertantly and should be cut a degree of slack) which is unacceptable IMO, and to me in my many arguments online (I've had a few LOL, best day was when I was slagged off for being a commie on one forum and a Nazi on another;) ) It's very clear when a line has been crossed, we can't have complete freedom, humanity needs some rules....they just need to be flexible when needed as things are often not black and white.
It's not like RD will change their rules up to this point, but if someday you build a forum of your own I really recommend that you make this experience. I'm pretty sure that you will not be disappointed.

Cheers!