Cars Caterham Seven 165 | 2013 1.1

[Ben O'Bro]

Ben O'Bro submitted a new resource:

Caterham 7 Seven 165 - 660cc Turbocharged Suzuki 3cylinders 490kg, 80bhp, 0-60: 6.5sec

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Slightly slower than the 1700ss with its missing cylinder. A bit newer (2013 vs 1995). Sound taken from the RX7 at the moment, but still enjoyable to drive! A nice way to learn how to drift gently

Lot of work taken from the 1700ss. But also new features with analog instruments. New alloys, new interior and updated suspension area.

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[hal4000]

Congratulations on the release Ben! Great work!

 

[Mumaransa]

Excellente à conduire comme sa grande soeur !

Juste un petit problème esthétique, le cadre du pare-brise reflète la texture de la route, un peu comme le problème connu de la vitre du tableau de bord.

Une fois qu'on l'a remarqué, on ne voie plus que ça, et ça gâche un petit peu le plaisir.

Vivement la suite avec les autres modèles en tout cas, merci pour cette petite gemme.

 

[MeMyselfAndI]

You guys are spoiling us with the Caterham,s and The Need for speed pack etc
The quality of the mods lately is amazing, feel like spoiled brat!

Thank you!

 

[chksix01]

Hi Ben,
I wish for a possibility to increase the free wheeling rpm a bit. If I had this car IRL it would be the first thing I'd do before taking it out on track. Don't know if the real engine can be set to about 3000 rpm though. It would make downshifts easier and make the engine a bit smoother
Cheers,
Pierre

 

[Jim Liak]

Is the suspension that stiff in real life also?
There is zero body roll and nose diving on braking.

 

[After_Midnight]

As a proud beta tester I've to say:
Props to @Ben O'Bro and @ltcars Your Caterhams are a must have and a pleasure to drive.
THANK YOU

 

[Ben O'Bro]

Excellente à conduire comme sa grande soeur !

Juste un petit problème esthétique, le cadre du pare-brise reflète la texture de la route, un peu comme le problème connu de la vitre du tableau de bord.

Une fois qu'on l'a remarqué, on ne voie plus que ça, et ça gâche un petit peu le plaisir.

Vivement la suite avec les autres modèles en tout cas, merci pour cette petite gemme.

I know... je sais
Don't know what to do about it!
Si j'enlève les reflets complètement ça devient matte et perd son matériaux.
Encore là j'ai flouté le reflet, c'est bien mieux qu'avant, mais j'entends bien... je ferai d'autres tests, ça me plait moyen aussi
merci du retour

Hi Ben,
I wish for a possibility to increase the free wheeling rpm a bit. If I had this car IRL it would be the first thing I'd do before taking it out on track. Don't know if the real engine can be set to about 3000 rpm though. It would make downshifts easier and make the engine a bit smoother
Cheers,
Pierre

Hey Pierre
It's a street car and as such not much freedom to set engine or gearbox settings! Not a race car for sure
I don't know the real engine much to be honest, we just took from what we saw and read online!

Is the suspension that stiff in real life also?
There is zero body roll and nose diving on braking.

that was also my first impression, not sure how real that is. It's 100kg lighter than the SS, with less power, suspensions seems common to what caterham use on heavier model, we figured it would be stiffer. Now did we make it too stiff, that's a valid question!

 

[Jim Liak]

that was also my first impression, not sure how real that is. It's 100kg lighter than the SS, with less power, suspensions seems common to what caterham use on heavier model, we figured it would be stiffer. Now did we make it too stiff, that's a valid question!

Look, I don't want to sound disrespectful but the car gives the impression that there is no suspension at the rear and that the front end will never understeer.
The car just rotates like there is no mass and inertia.
Of course don't take my feedback seriously as I have never driven this car IRL.

 

[ltcars]

Look, I don't want to sound disrespectful but the car gives the impression that there is no suspension at the rear and that the front end will never understeer.
The car just rotates like there is no mass and inertia.
Of course don't take my feedback seriously as I have never driven this car IRL.

As me doing the physics, I tried softening the suspension a bit, but failed. Do you know how to do it? If anyone knows it, PM me please

 

[Jim Liak]

Please find a physics guy. This mod is so good regarding 3d model.
@aphidgod ?

 

[Maximilian Hinter]

The model itself is very good, no doubt. But it's way too stiff, you cant really predict what the car is going to do, it oversteers in almost every turn no matter if youre on or off throttle.

 

[ltcars]

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The model itself is very good, no doubt. But it's way too stiff, you cant really predict what the car is going to do, it oversteers in almost every turn no matter if youre on or off throttle.

I know that it is too stiff but the oversteering part is like this in the real car if you can believe sources like Top Gear or Autocar

 

[Leonardo Ratafiá]

why did you change for the rx7 sound? it's so weird, isn't the abarth 595 a good match for it?

 

[Ben O'Bro]

why did you change for the rx7 sound? it's so weird, isn't the abarth 595 a good match for it?

i tried many!
That 3 cylinders is not a common sound for sure
Many cars are too rough, like the 595 and its exhaust noise.
The e30 was too noisy/dirty
supra too powerful sound
the old abarth was actually not bad surprisingly, as well as the miata, so as few other cars, sadly the sound would not make it to the high revs.... whereas the rx7 did
But if you find a kunos car that would match better, i'm all ears!

 

[Leonardo Ratafiá]

try toyota gt86 and see if you like it

 

[HarryRiedl]

I tried with 718 Boxster seemed to work through most of the rev range

 

[ltcars]

The problem with the sound is that you need much more windnoise and it must be a convertible to get that

 

[Leonardo Ratafiá]

There is no wind noise on assetto, or is it?

 

[ltcars]

There is no wind noise on assetto, or is it?

I don't think so. I thought it was a problem of me but if you say so too