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BREAKING NEWS | Racing Point Docked Points Due To Mercedes Copygate Protest

The Racing Point Formula One team have lost an appeal lodged by Renault over the legality of their 2020 RP20 Formula One car.
  • Renault protest over Racing Point brake ducts upheald.
  • Racing Point fined 400,000 Euros and docked 15 Constructors Championship points.

The FIA have this morning declared the brake duct design of the Racing Point RP20 is indeed deemed to be a copy of the 2019 Mercedes Formula One car, following repeated protests from the Renault Formula One team.

Having been deemed to have copied the design of the 2019 Mercedes parts, which is against the listed parts regulations, Racing Point have been docked 15 constructors championship points, fined 400,000 Euros and reprimanded by the FIA.


In other Racing Point news, it has been confirmed that temporary stand in driver Nico Hulkenberg will again represent the team in place of Sergio Perez this weekend. The 32-year-old German will again deputise alongside Lance Stroll, as Sergio Perez remains positive for Covid-19, despite not showing outward symptoms of the virus.


The 70th Anniversary Grand Prix at Silverstone action is set to begin today with opening practice.


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BrainsBush

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Isnt it -/- 15 points?

Good to see Hulk back again. Hopefully more luck for him this weekend.
On the other hand feel sorry for Perez to miss another race.
What will the effect be on the longer term with the seat swap 2021?

Enjoy the race weekend again!!
 
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Wouldn't be surprised to see more protests over different parts of the car now that has been upheld
 

farjam

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They have been docked 15 points, not 7.5. It clearly says "7.5 points per car"
*Ducted*

How many extra points did they win while copying/cheating?
Doesn't seem enough to me.
At least they didn't get "a private agreement with FIA for almost a full season with a murky (illegal now) part" way out of it :D
 
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M1GHTY M4VS

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So they have used same brake ducts in 4 races. Protests for 3 races are upheld and their points are taken for only 1 race. Okay, this is 100% F1 decision, looks fine and in line with their usual decisions. :roflmao:
It wouldn't be fair and reasonable to RP given current times that they'd have to develop a new system from scratch within 1 raceweekend via the triple headers F1 currently holds. So given that atleast one factory development week when there's no ongoing preperations is rather fair considering that you have to consider the safety and cost aspect. For them it was pending, so while it was pending it'd have been wise to start developing a new one back then either for case A imidiate replacement or case B later in the current season or next season (given that 2021 holds a cap in development from 2020 so cars are to remain relatively frozen in further development to bring down costs as sanctioned by FIA).

Renault being massive karens as usual. Even without them brake ducts Renault wont beat them.
In the previous season RP claimed against Renault, so shots were fired first there. Renault responded and upheld because they have much more backing power via the company.
 

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It wouldn't be fair and reasonable to RP given current times that they'd have to develop a new system from scratch within 1 raceweekend via the triple headers F1 currently holds. So given that atleast one factory development week when there's no ongoing preperations is rather fair considering that you have to consider the safety and cost aspect. For them it was pending, so while it was pending it'd have been wise to start developing a new one back then either for case A imidiate replacement or case B later in the current season or next season (given that 2021 holds a cap in development from 2020 so cars are to remain relatively frozen in further development to bring down costs as sanctioned by FIA).
I understand that point of view, but that is also on them as it is explained in report: they had a chance at start of this year, before pre-season tests, when FIA was visiting factory to ask them and to clear up anything about their planned approach to brake ducts. They didn't.
One small thing I would also like to be cleared up is which brake ducts were sent on 6th January this year to RP. 2019 ones that they got during last year or some with any updates that Merc did near the end of last year. Any small thing to talk about since as you say cars are more or less frozen -> championships until 2022 are frozen. :D
 

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That last sentence.. Got F1 fever?....

Than you should get yourself tested. ;)

But for a car that is almost a carbon copy of the Merc of last year only a 400.000 fine and some points.
Ain't such a bad deal, designing your own car costs way more.
 

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That last sentence.. Got F1 fever?....

Than you should get yourself tested. ;)

But for a car that is almost a carbon copy of the Merc of last year only a 400.000 fine and some points.
Ain't such a bad deal, designing your own car costs way more.
cheap investment then ;)
 

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If they are referencing the external appearance as grounds for the decision, Renault are also in trouble for many parts of their car. However, if the internals of the brake are in question, Mercedes will likely come under protest by Renault for letting RP use the design. The story is going to run and run.
 

Lazarou

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Mercedes sent a complete set of brake ducts to Racing Point on Jan. 6th 2020. FIA states it wasn't a breach of regulation because the parts were not used & there was nothing in the transfer that had not been legitimately provided to RP in 2019 under old rules.
 

Terry Rock

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If this were a classroom exam, I'd have a problem. It isn't.
F1 rivals copy each other...all the time.
Unless Mercedes sold prints of those brake ducts or offered beneficial data directly to Racing Point, I do not have a problem with it.
I don't really have a problem with any team copying another.
It is how we have perfected some of the greatest innovations in F1.
Why reinvent the wheel.
 

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Unless Mercedes sold prints of those brake ducts or offered beneficial data directly to Racing Point, I do not have a problem with it.
That's exactly what they did. Mercedes sold Racing Point CAD models of both front and rear ducts in 2019, which that year was legal. For this year, Racing Point decided to use the exact CAD model provided by Mercedes for the rear ducts, which is now illegal, since brake ducts became listed parts in 2020, meaning they can no longer be sourced from outside vendors.
 

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Unless Mercedes sold prints of those brake ducts or offered beneficial data directly to Racing Point, I do not have a problem with it.
While this article is sadly lacking on the details, other sources are not. What you said above is exactly what Mercedes did. They handed Racing Point design data on their own brake ducts, which RP then used to make their own with minimal changes. This has been proved, and that's what they've been penalised for. This isn't about looking at photos and footage and creating a "best guess" copy of the part. They created their copy with actual design data from another team.

But for a car that is almost a carbon copy of the Merc of last year only a 400.000 fine and some points.
Ain't such a bad deal, designing your own car costs way more.
Yeah, but this might not be over yet. If they get a $400,000 fine and 15 points deducted from one part being proved as a direct copy, how much are they going to get if other parts are proved to be the same? They already seem to have gotten away with it somewhat since this penalty is only regarding the rear ducts. The front ducts were deemed "legal" because they were on last year's car, and were designed before the tweak in the rules which has made the rear ducts illegal. If Renault or whoever pursue this copy issue, it could get a whole lot more expensive.

Anyway, glad to see that the Hulk will (hopefully) get a race after all. :thumbsup:
 
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