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Blamer

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Talking about trees...
is there a way to make them static and not 'camera facing'?

I can understand spectators staring at you when you approach them, but... trees?!? Near trees in VR are... weird

(yes, not a big problem, I know)
 

b)b

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Talking about trees...
is there a way to make them static and not 'camera facing'?

I can understand spectators staring at you when you approach them, but... trees?!? Near trees in VR are... weird

(yes, not a big problem, I know)

On the Green Hell, trees are watching you. They are 2D, which is great for performance and not really a problem on a monitor, although in VR it is not ideal except for performance.
 
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BillGuy

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The updates are out.
The Bummer News: no BMW as shown in the Nords video from earlier today
The Positive News: Nurburgring DLC is listed at the same price as the two prior track DLCs

EDIT: Nords > Nurburgring for DLC
 
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BazzaLB

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On the Green Hell, trees are watching you. They are 2D, which is great for performance and not really a problem on a monitor, although in VR it is not ideal except for performance.
I play exclusively in VR and tbh, I don't mind these 2D trees at all. I actually think they look better than the crappy 3D trees I've seen in other titles. They actually look like trees for one. I certainly appreciate the performance gain they provide.

EDIT: Disclaimer.. I have not seen the AMS2 version of Nords yet, I am going by my experiences in rf2 when relating 2D trees in VR.

EDIT2: Just took AMS2 Nords for a spin in VR with no AI. Looks pretty good to me with the 2D trees. I get some very bad stutter approaching the Carousel though. Everywhere else seems smooth enough (which tbh I would expect with no AI).

EDIT3: (last one I promise :) ). Took the M1 Pro Car around Nords for a few laps. Circuit looks good imo. I can't attest to its absolute accuracy but seems OK to me. I'm sure the Nords afficianados will fill in those details soon enough.

M1 Pro car is great fun to drive around Nords. I think the track needs an optimisation pass though (at least for VR). I get the odd dropped frame (not too bad and not too often) and the stutter around the Carousel is really really bad.

FWIW I run an i7 7700K@4.8 with 1080ti and 32gig ram and Vive Pro. The aliasing in this engine is bad if you ask me. Mind you, I was running no MSAA, no FXAA and Supersampling was only 115% which means the aliasing is very present, but any degree of MSAA kills the frame rate for me and in VR , frame rate is king.
 
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The updates are out.
The Bummer News: no BMW as shown in the Nords video from earlier today
The Positive News: Nurburgring DLC is listed at the same price as the two prior track DLCs

EDIT: Nords > Nurburgring for DLC
Link to the video with the BMW????
 

BazzaLB

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Addendum to my post above. I turned on "Use Legacy Projection Mode" (this is NOT motion smoothing and it is not interleaved reprojection either, its just the old way SteamVR used to do reprojection).

This actually severely reduced / eliminated any stutter for me on Nords in VR (still some very minor stuttuer at the carousel) . Half the stutter in VR is because SteamVR has become a bloated mess over time. Anyway, just a tip and as usual YMMV.

There is a bit of Z-fighting happening on some of barriers but fairly rare

Really enjoying fanging the M1 Pro car around the circuit (on my lonesome).
 
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David Peres

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Porches are still super bouncy....
Drove the Cayman GT4 on the Nordschleife and the bouncing did seem a bit exagerated, but then watched an onboard video of the real car on the Nords and the real Cayman does seem to be super bouncy. The real car was even bouncing the most on the same places where I was bouncing the most in the game.

It's hard to compare using a youtube video, so I don't knot how accurate the bouncing is, but it does not seem to be too far from the truth.
 

BazzaLB

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PickABetterUsername01 said:
Porches are still super bouncy....

Watch a few videos on YT and you too will see the Porches are really not very planted, but bouncier than other GT's... REIZA good job on NR :)
I'm taking my Boxster S back to get the bounce added back in then as my car feels very planted. Oh, wait, no I'll skip that. I prefer my car without the bounce.
 

digital1nk

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I play exclusively in VR and tbh, I don't mind these 2D trees at all. I actually think they look better than the crappy 3D trees I've seen in other titles. They actually look like trees for one. I certainly appreciate the performance gain they provide.

EDIT: Disclaimer.. I have not seen the AMS2 version of Nords yet, I am going by my experiences in rf2 when relating 2D trees in VR.

EDIT2: Just took AMS2 Nords for a spin in VR with no AI. Looks pretty good to me with the 2D trees. I get some very bad stutter approaching the Carousel though. Everywhere else seems smooth enough (which tbh I would expect with no AI).

EDIT3: (last one I promise :) ). Took the M1 Pro Car around Nords for a few laps. Circuit looks good imo. I can't attest to its absolute accuracy but seems OK to me. I'm sure the Nords afficianados will fill in those details soon enough.

M1 Pro car is great fun to drive around Nords. I think the track needs an optimisation pass though (at least for VR). I get the odd dropped frame (not too bad and not too often) and the stutter around the Carousel is really really bad.

FWIW I run an i7 7700K@4.8 with 1080ti and 32gig ram and Vive Pro. The aliasing in this engine is bad if you ask me. Mind you, I was running no MSAA, no FXAA and Supersampling was only 115% which means the aliasing is very present, but any degree of MSAA kills the frame rate for me and in VR , frame rate is king.
Try the xml edit in AMS 2 documents, i cant remember what needs to be changed (search around in the reiza forums) but makes the game look much much better in VR, while having 0% performance cost.
 
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BazzaLB

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No doubt about it. The Brabham BT44 is an absolute blast around Nords. Be careful of getting any air though.. Its a one hell of a ride after that :D
 
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Avo77

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Apparently I found a bug in my setup regarding traction control for GT3-4 (and probably all the other vehicles implementing such features).

The only way for fully disable TC is to set assist in the authenticity menu to FULL and then act on each of the options passing to OFF.

In this way finally it is possible to spin tires at will and driving (with some modifications to default setups) is greatly improved and much more convincing.

I’m quite sure some other guys are affected by the same problem so, try the workaround. It has done the trick for me.

At the end Reiza was quite right about grip envelop (for sure some recent passes of tune helped as well) but we were right as well in detecting ‘shadow’ assists where should have been none...

That said, suspensions values are still (IMHO) wrong on several cars (some F1 cars continue to bounce with no damping at all at standstill) but I’m sure they will look into it.

At the moment I think we are at the point where suspension (to stay on topic) of disbelief works fine enough and any other issue can be tolerated. ;)

Keep up the good work.
 
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Kiryu

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Apparently I found a bug in my setup regarding traction control for GT3-4 (and probably all the other vehicles implementing such features).

The only way for fully disable TC is to set assist in the authenticity menu to FULL and then act on each of the options passing to OFF.
If that's actually true it makes you wonder what else is not working correctly.

I mean, you would expect someone to test if settings like that do work if you put them in, right?
 
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Avo77

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If something else is not working we will for sure catch it and report, as usual.

At the moment I’m quite satisfied with the new cars driving, no matter the suspension issues.
 

walken

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If something else is not working we will for sure catch it and report, as usual.

At the moment I’m quite satisfied with the new cars driving, no matter the suspension issues.
any tips about setup ? i know it's personal taste but maybe some indication got a better feeling on track.
Thank you

mexxxx