2017 Formula One Russian Grand Prix

Where did politics come from :/
Anyway, it's time they got rid of tilke and found someone who knows how to design decent f1 tracks - maybe some of these current ones can be fixed.
Four races into the championship, and 3 of the tracks so far are duds.
 
FREE PRACTICE ONE (FRIDAY)

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  1. Kimi Raikkonen FIN Ferrari - Ferrari 1m 36.074s
  2. Valtteri Bottas FIN Mercedes - Mercedes 1m 36.119s
  3. Lewis Hamilton GBR Mercedes - Mercedes 1m 36.681s
  4. Max Verstappen NED Red Bull - TAG 1m 37.174s
  5. Sebastian Vettel GER Ferrari - Ferrari 1m 37.230s
  6. Daniel Ricciardo AUS Red Bull - TAG 1m 37.290s
  7. Sergio Perez MEX Force India-Mercedes 1m 37.457s
  8. Felipe Massa BRA Williams - Mercedes 1m 37.900s
  9. Lance Stroll CAN Williams - Mercedes 1m 37.944s
  10. Esteban Ocon FRA Force India-Mercedes 1m 38.065s
  11. Daniil Kvyat RUS Toro Rosso-Renault 1m 38.496s
  12. Kevin Magnussen DEN Haas-Ferrari 1m 38.747s
  13. Fernando Alonso ESP McLaren-Honda 1m 38.813s
  14. Carlos Sainz ESP Toro Rosso-Renault 1m 38.976s
  15. Jolyon Palmer GBR Renault - Renault 1m 39.158s
  16. Romain Grosjean FRA Haas-Ferrari 1m 39.533s
  17. Stoffel Vandoorne BEL McLaren-Honda 1m 39.541s
  18. Pascal Wehrlein GER Sauber - Ferrari 1m 39.731s
  19. Marcus Ericsson SWE Sauber - Ferrari 1m 40.079s
  20. Sergey Sirotkin RUS Renault - Renault No Time
 
FREE PRACTICE TWO (FRIDAY)

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  1. Sebastian Vettel GER Ferrari - Ferrari 1m 34.120s
  2. Kimi Raikkonen FIN Ferrari - Ferrari 1m 34.383s
  3. Valtteri Bottas FIN Mercedes - Mercedes 1m 34.790s
  4. Lewis Hamilton GBR Mercedes - Mercedes 1m 34.829s
  5. Max Verstappen NED Red Bull - TAG 1m 35.540s
  6. Daniel Ricciardo AUS Red Bull - TAG 1m 35.910s
  7. Felipe Massa BRA Williams - Mercedes 1m 36.261s
  8. Nico Hulkenberg GER Renault - Renault 1m 36.329s
  9. Kevin Magnussen DEN Haas-Ferrari 1m 36.506s
  10. Sergio Perez MEX Force India-Mercedes 1m 36.600s
  11. Esteban Ocon FRA Force India-Mercedes 1m 36.654s
  12. Fernando Alonso ESP McLaren-Honda 1m 36.765s
  13. Jolyon Palmer GBR Renault - Renault 1m 36.771s
  14. Romain Grosjean FRA Haas-Ferrari 1m 37.039s
  15. Carlos Sainz ESP Toro Rosso-Renault 1m 37.083s
  16. Stoffel Vandoorne BEL McLaren-Honda 1m 37.125s
  17. Daniil Kvyat RUS Toro Rosso-Renault 1m 37.300s
  18. Pascal Wehrlein GER Sauber - Ferrari 1m 37.441s
  19. Lance Stroll CAN Williams - Mercedes 1m 37.747s
  20. Marcus Ericsson SWE Sauber - Ferrari 1m 37.819s
 
Anyway, it's time they got rid of tilke and found someone who knows how to design decent f1 tracks - maybe some of these current ones can be fixed.
Austin > great track. Sepang > great track. He can produce very good tracks. Let me remind you that he is handcuffed by the FIA RULES of track design. Even when he wanted it, he could never, and i repeat, NEVER design a corner like Eau Rouge/Radillion. Not that he hasn't the imagination, but the rules won't allow him to do so.
 
Bilster Berg should be proof enough Tilke can design a good track if you let him.

His F1 work is as formulaic as a pop song, though. Verse, chorus, verse, chorus, outtro. Samey and unsatisfying, but safe and predictable.
 
The challengers are creative in their development, (Ferrari). The leaders are conservative in their development, (Mercedes). The result a major change in dominance.
 
Awesome qualifying. Vettel just a killer :sneaky:
How refreshing is that, a podium without Hamilton :)
Hopefully Mercedes doesn't do teamorders this time.
Stroll keeps impressing..1,5s slower then his teammate :laugh: on that level that's hilarious.
 
Massa => very experienced 01:35.049
Stroll => rookie. 01:35.964
So it was 0,9s not 1,5 seconds.
Yeah right, the page i looked before had their timing wrong. Still a huge huge gap, given Massa isn't particularly a top top driver (like Vettel or Alonso).

It was almost 1,5s between Palmer and Hulkenberg though...crazy.
 
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Very happy for the guy on the left and on the right, not a fan of the guy in the middle, not missing the other one who is usually there either, a refreshing podium for qualification.:)
 
FREE PRACTICE THREE (SATURDAY)

  1. Sebastian Vettel GER Ferrari - Ferrari 1m 34.001s
  2. Kimi Raikkonen FIN Ferrari - Ferrari 1m 34.338s
  3. Valtteri Bottas FIN Mercedes - Mercedes 1m 34.364s
  4. Lewis Hamilton GBR Mercedes - Mercedes 1m 34.542s
  5. Max Verstappen NED Red Bull - TAG 1m 35.452s
  6. Felipe Massa BRA Williams - Mercedes 1m 35.471s
  7. Nico Hulkenberg GER Renault - Renault 1m 35.662s
  8. Daniel Ricciardo AUS Red Bull - TAG 1m 35.830s
  9. Carlos Sainz ESP Toro Rosso-Renault 1m 37.164s
  10. Kevin Magnussen DEN Haas-Ferrari 1m 36.619s
  11. Lance Stroll CAN Williams - Mercedes 1m 36.649s
  12. Esteban Ocon FRA Force India-Mercedes 1m 36.676s
  13. Daniil Kvyat RUS Toro Rosso-Renault 1m 36.846s
  14. Fernando Alonso ESP McLaren-Honda 1m 36.869s
  15. Sergio Perez MEX Force India-Mercedes 1m 36.962s
  16. Romain Grosjean FRA Haas-Ferrari 1m 37.164s
  17. Stoffel Vandoorne BEL McLaren-Honda 1m 37.182s
  18. Marcus Ericsson SWE Sauber - Ferrari 1m 37.503s
  19. Pascal Wehrlein GER Sauber - Ferrari 1m 37.657s
  20. Jolyon Palmer GBR Renault - Renault No Time
 
Ferrari Ramps Up the Pressure as Hamilton Struggles
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World Championship leader and Ferrari number one Sebastian Vettel romps to Pole Position in Russia this afternoon as he and teammate Kimi Räikkönen lock out the front row of the grid for the first time since the 2008 French Grand Prix at Magny Cours. Understandably delighted to secure a prime starting position for the Grand Prix tomorrow, Vettel was pleased to have ended his own pole drought in the #5 Scuderia Ferrari entry:


"Yeah it felt like ages, not a little while!" Vettel said. "Obviously it was a while ago. I think it's great. We've had a very good run also yesterday, this morning, and the car feels great. There's no real secret. It's just a fact that if you get along with the car here, you find the rhythm, you know what to expect. It's a track where you can make a big difference.

"We knew it would be tight because Mercedes ramps it up in qualy. Valtteri was very close so it could have been the other way, but for sure it's a great achievement and I'm very happy to lock out the front row for the team."

With Ferrari having played all their cards right at Sochi this afternoon, it was left to a surprisingly underwhelming Mercedes team to take up the challenge on row two, with new Silver Arrows recruit Valtteri Bottas once again outperforming championship favourite Lewis Hamilton to wrap up third place on the grid, one spot and less than one tenth of a second in front of his illustrious team mate.

“I just wasn’t quick enough today, so I have to go back to the drawing board and try to figure out why" Said Hamilton.​

“It was all in the last sector, I was losing half a second there. I've been struggling there all weekend with the balance and it's been tough to utilise the tyres.”
Other notable performances from todays session include a stand out lap from Felipe Massa in the Williams Mercedes, who used all the performance available from the car and engine combination to secure sixth position in the final times and Force India drivers Sergio Perez and Esteban Ocon who once again over performed in a car less than ideally suited to this track to round out the Q3 times in ninth and tenth places.

Full provisional qualification results for Sunday's Russian Grand Prix:

  1. Sebastian Vettel GER Ferrari - Ferrari 1m 33.194s
  2. Kimi Raikkonen FIN Ferrari - Ferrari 1m 33.253s
  3. Valtteri Bottas FIN Mercedes - Mercedes 1m 33.289s
  4. Lewis Hamilton GBR Mercedes - Mercedes 1m 33.767s
  5. Daniel Ricciardo AUS Red Bull - TAG 1m 34.905s
  6. Felipe Massa BRA Williams - Mercedes 1m 35.110s
  7. Max Verstappen NED Red Bull - TAG 1m 35.161s
  8. Nico Hulkenberg GER Renault - Renault 1m 35.285s
  9. Sergio Perez MEX Force India-Mercedes 1m 35.337s
  10. Esteban Ocon FRA Force India-Mercedes 1m 35.430s
  11. Carlos Sainz ESP Toro Rosso-Renault 1m 35.948s *
  12. Lance Stroll CAN Williams - Mercedes 1m 35.964s
  13. Daniil Kvyat RUS Toro Rosso-Renault 1m 35.968s
  14. Kevin Magnussen DEN Haas-Ferrari 1m 36.017s
  15. Fernando Alonso ESP McLaren-Honda 1m 36.660s
  16. Jolyon Palmer GBR Renault - Renault 1m 36.462s
  17. Stoffel Vandoorne BEL McLaren-Honda 1m 37.070s **
  18. Marcus Ericsson SWE Sauber - Ferrari 1m 37.332s
  19. Pascal Wehrlein GER Sauber - Ferrari 1m 37.507s
  20. Romain Grosjean FRA Haas-Ferrari 1m 37.620s

    * 3 place grid penalty
    ** 15 place grid penalty
 
Quick note - sorry for the lateness of posts in this thread (and here in general) - I've been on holiday all week and I'm still trying to catch up :)

I'll do better from tonight onwards ;) :)
 
Yeah right, the page i looked before had their timing wrong. Still a huge huge gap, given Massa isn't particularly a top top driver (like Vettel or Alonso).

It was almost 1,5s between Palmer and Hulkenberg though...crazy.
Massa is better than most people think. But at Ferrari he was the #2 behind Schumacher and later Alonso. Still he was runner up in 2008, in which he won more races than WDC Hamilton.
 
Vettel abusing track limits in T3 (i've seen it on the broadcast 2 times already, safe to assume he's doing it every lap) and not getting a penalty after 2 cars got it in the early stages. F1 politics make me sick.
 
Sooo...where are those people who said Bottas will get fired? He was ahead of Hamilton every single session this weekend while Hamilton was pathetic. Congrats to Bwoah77as for winning :)
 

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