Straight4 Studios Joins Forces with Reiza Studios

stenovitz · May 19, 2023

John B. Ellis said:
Pardon, but what about this article was in the least bit surprising?

I hereby christen their business partnership “RRR Studios”

Cannot hear whether the 'RRR' is idling or RRrreving up (?)

Kingkoenig · May 19, 2023

John B. Ellis said:
Pardon, but what about this article was in the least bit surprising?

I hereby christen their business partnership “RRR Studios”

Yes, it thought about those photos immediately when I read the news. This wasn't just a social visit, obviously.

Metla · May 19, 2023

Very interesting, Both companies have demonstrated strengths that would compliment the other, This could be huge for us sim-racers.

Copef1 · May 19, 2023

Fineraft said:
What if the Sim is great and destroys the entire competition?

Save your breath. You're trying to talk logic to someone who runs on emotion.

Raging Beard · May 20, 2023

I'd love GTR Revival to be a DLC pack for AMS2

TheRealCeeBee · May 20, 2023

lol, when you on your tippie toes to be in the picture..
#shortguyythings

roadyroad · May 20, 2023

Metla said:
Very interesting, Both companies have demonstrated strengths that would compliment the other, This could be huge for us sim-racers.

The only interesting comment. But straitght4 isn't a company with history, it's Ian Bell. A succesfull lier. Reiza's involvment as a developper with such a successful communicative person should be the best move ever for simracing. I'm just concerned about the cultural incompatibility of both companies (not in terms of countries obviously, but in terms of business).
Don't you think Ian Bell had competent and dedicated people working on pcars1 and 2? With a major publisher? Paying Reiza will change something about that? It's money, not passion. What are important are the rights about the Madness engine code. Reiza now has the knowledge. Contracts between Codemasters, Ian Bell, Reiza about the Madness engine are there. Tell us the story...

Pete Conway · May 20, 2023

John B. Ellis said:
Now here is something I did not expect:

Someone at RaceDepartment who honestly hasn’t heard of the original Assetto Corsa, aka, “the most moddable racing sim ever” that also was released on consoles?

I'm sorry if my ignorance surprises you, some of us get to a point where all is good and generally stick with it, I have a PC (though I recently shelled out for a PS4 and GT7... ) and though I have tried PCars, Forza, AC and ACC, I prefer GTR2, I also don't understand how a console game/sim can be as moddable as a PC one, and to be honest my earlier statement of 'sticking with it' is GTR2 because I understand what I need too and spend my time using it rather that wasting time on stuff I don't really have an interest in and if....IF GTR Revival is the same but better than GTR2 I'll be happy to buy into it, however, I'll not buy into the politics, axe grinding, hate and one-upmanship of studio history.

John B. Ellis · May 20, 2023

Pete Conway said:
I'm sorry if my ignorance surprises you, some of us get to a point where all is good and generally stick with it, I have a PC (though I recently shelled out for a PS4 and GT7... ) and though I have tried PCars, Forza, AC and ACC, I prefer GTR2, I also don't understand how a console game/sim can be as moddable as a PC one, and to be honest my earlier statement of 'sticking with it' is GTR2 because I understand what I need too and spend my time using it rather that wasting time on stuff I don't really have an interest in and if....IF GTR Revival is the same but better than GTR2 I'll be happy to buy into it, however, I'll not buy into the politics, axe grinding, hate and one-upmanship of studio history.

I hear you, Pete ... a big reason I'm part of the AMS2 scene is that the Madness engine simply runs surprisingly well on my 3.3 Ghz I5-2500K. It actually runs noticeably better and without any fuss than AC, R3E, etc. My comment was nothing personal; I just figured that even those simracers who may not like AC still cannot avoid the plethora of content here at RD while searching for something else.

Deleted member 197115 · May 20, 2023

Sounds like that will make AMS2 just another unfinished sim using Madness Engine.

kondor999 · May 20, 2023

Awesome news. A lot of really great people behind both projects!!

th3orist · May 20, 2023

Well, on paper it definitely sounds promising. Let's see what they will come up with.

jonelsorel · May 20, 2023

Fingers crossed for this partenership to get Reiza whatever they were missing in terms of engine understanding in order to make AMS2 the best it can be. Bell can stay home on this one and focus on AI commentary.

gamma123152 · May 20, 2023

I've been searching on the "Straight 4 studio's" website and press releases and VR isn't even mentioned! This means that the focus of Ian Bell lays elsewhere and that seems to be mass audience since they didn't announce VR but they DID announce console support. So with all due respect, this is not going to the right direction. Focus should be sim racing first, that's PC first and VR first but consoles are mentioned and VR isn't mentioned at all.

So I really hope that Reiza knows what they are doing. CodeMasters is already gone to EA and lost forever (I have zero hope left for WRC 23) and now Reiza is also at danger because of this adventure. Reiza until know always was independent and I really hope that it stays like that.

Because of all this: I'm really looking forward to read from Renato WHAT this cooperation exactly is and means for Reiza studio's, AMS2 and with their focus on sim racing and VR. At this moment it's completely unclear what path this is going and what the idea's are. Is it mass money/mass audience/mass focus on console/less focus on sim racing/no focus on VR. Or isn't it? Without proper VR ANY sim title is lost, my rig only has VR and I'm not going back to screens.
VR like ACC/Rennsport(announced) both with deferred rendering/blurry TAA/level of detail/shadow popin/not working mirrors etc. is not really VR. It's just terrible compared to AMS2.

So I really hope that this subjects gets clarified because this press release of Ian Bell causes more concerns then positive thoughts to be honest since it feels to me that Ian only has dollar signs in his eyes and he tries to buy talent where he could. I really hope that Reiza doesn't fall for this and sold their soul to the devil for a cheap price. Reiza is worth at this moment a thousend times more then whatever Ian Bell has in his mind, I hope that you guys at Reiza keep realizing that.

pz666 · May 20, 2023

In the days where exclusivity deals are ruining a lot of things it's good to see collaboration taking place...

Ian Bell has got his reputation and rightfully so, but the potential for one of the smart people he has working for him to figure out some of the quirks in AMS2 makes it very worthwhile for Reiza to take on the garbage that comes with associating with Bell...

Kurupt CDN · May 20, 2023

Not sure how I feel about this.

I'll wait for player reviews after release, not getting sucked back into the hype train again.

aolas · May 20, 2023

And again some zero important news, REIZA need to fix they crap (MP, Physics) I am still angry with them for bringing out AMS2 in that crap stat and they crap DLC policy. REIZA lost they relevance long time ago. And the whole Racing SIM market is in stagnation Covid is over people have better to do, than spending money on SIMS's (maybe the iRacing b. fanboys still spend money)

pitkin · May 20, 2023

Pete Conway said:
I I'll not buy into the politics, axe grinding, hate and one-upmanship of studio history.

Says the man who appears in every thread like this and feels the need to PM people he doesn't agree with.

Kurupt CDN · May 20, 2023

pz666 said:
but the potential for one of the smart people he has working for him to figure out some of the quirks in AMS2 makes it very worthwhile for Reiza to take on the garbage that comes with associating with Bell...

Considering Slightly mad has been working on the Madness Engine for over 10ys and has yet to solve the bugs/quirks that have persisted over 4 titles now using the engine.

Not sure how one of his "smart guys" is gonna help solve the quirks in AMS2?

Ya, they might have better knowledge of the engine than Reiza....but than the question arises....why wasn't it sorted in past Project car titles or when Reiza took hold of the engine?

Personally, with little details at this point, the only benefits I see....
For Reiza, Ian's money
For Ian, slightly better physics and a hard working team with a good reputation.

qubusek · May 20, 2023

I love how easily people get triggered by mere mention of Ian Bell. I look forward to see what good his partnership brings. It's far to easy to be negative about stuff. Reiza proved they're skilled team of Devs. Ian got us PC even if you don't like if that much it's still a good (not excellent) sim. Anyways we all made friends with wrong people and good things came about so let's wait and see.

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