iRacing Adds More Free Content

Johnr777 · Dec 3, 2022

Sigwolf said:
I honestly hope you are being paid for your persistent and vigorous defense of all things in regards to iRacing pricing.

Then there’s also clear and consistent trolling from non-members on all things iRacing if you want to start pointing out the obvious…

It’s not about defending the iRacing pricing structure or the game itself, just finding it very annoying to read that even if you are being given a car and 2 tracks at no extra cost (meaning no additional money coming out of your precious wallet), the game is bashed for being expensive, or “irent” bs…

Johnr777 · Dec 3, 2022

metalnwood said:
If you walk in to a store and buy something for $75 and they tell you that they are going to give you a $40 credit and you only hand over $35 what did you pay? Did you still pay $75 because they didnt physically hand you $40 and then take it back?

It is $75 and it costs you $35 I dont care what the hangar price was, its what I paid.

Seriously, this is petty, if you paid $35 you paid $35. This is really bottom of the barrel arguments against its pricing.

Every thread, news article… it’s getting old. The title included the words free and iracing so of course it’s going to be an automatic trigger for stupidity

metalnwood · Dec 3, 2022

The irony is that iracing is very affordable, you can tell as there are only two camps here. Those that pay for it and those that are too principled to pay for something they don't own. There are not any people that cant afford it yet we are talking prices.

Johnr777 · Dec 3, 2022

metalnwood said:
those that are too principled to pay for something they don't own.

But the comical part is that they actually do pay, various memberships for various services.

Lefthook · Dec 3, 2022

Tarmac Terrorist said:
Wow, VIR for free, thats great news, one of my favorite tracks! I really wanna try Iracing, its pretty much the only one i've never driven (apart from Codies F1). But im still not keen on renting it all. I don't mind paying a sub for great multiplayer at all, but not having access to even just drive a car i've purchased on a track i've purchased, by myself. What if you lost internet for a couple of months for instance. I really wish they at least had a very small demo just to get a feel for it. I know they have a cheap months sub, but if there was a free limited demo, maybe if I liked it I'd buy the full year sub. I do hear Driver61 saying the MX5 is the closest hes driven to the real thing, and he should know!

It would be great if it had an offline piece to it I agree. However, in your scenario I think if you lost internet connection for a month or months you likely wouldn't be simracing anyway.
Honestly give it a go for a 3 month sub just so you can say you did it. You won't need to buy a thing initially. There is the Formula Vee, the incoming Toyota and Mazda on road courses to keep you busy. You have nothing to lose. If you don't like it, simply don't renew. You'll be glad you did, even if you hate it because at least you'll know.

Metla · Dec 3, 2022

Johnr777 said:
You still didn’t answer how much the + 3 costs, or is math too hard for ya?

Its a non-point, If you pay for something it isn't free, if they expand upon what you are paying for, it still isn't free.

Further to that its not possible to have free content in a subscription model, You are paying for access and then have to make repeat payments to maintain access.

No point discussing the math when the very concept of free seems to be beyond you...

Metla · Dec 3, 2022

metalnwood said:
If you walk in to a store and buy something for $75 and they tell you that they are going to give you a $40 credit and you only hand over $35 what did you pay? Did you still pay $75 because they didnt physically hand you $40 and then take it back?

It is $75 and it costs you $35 I dont care what the hangar price was, its what I paid.

Seriously, this is petty, if you paid $35 you paid $35. This is really bottom of the barrel arguments against its pricing.

Please don't. Putting more layers of spin over spin doesn't make it anymore palatable.

The cost of a subscription is what it is. No need to cloud the issue with further complex structures based on levels of marketing, fluff, participation and further purchases. If that's what keeps you going then excellent.

But its simple enough, if someone was to subscribe in order to access this new paid content, whats it going to cost, today, now, what is the expenditure?

Its not $35 or whatever the modified spin sum is you keep banging out.

metalnwood · Dec 3, 2022

Metla said:
Please don't. Putting more layers of spin over spin doesn't make it anymore palatable.

The cost of a subscription is what it is. No need to cloud the issue with further complex structures based on levels of marketing, fluff, participation and further purchases. If that's what keeps you going then excellent.

But its simple enough, if someone was to subscribe in order to access this new paid content, whats it going to cost, today, now, what is the expenditure?

Its not $35 or whatever the modified spin sum is you keep banging out.

You are ignoring all the context that was there and putting your own spin on it. I pointed out, $35 is what he explained he paid.

Some one asked how they could get it for $3 a month and he showed how he was getting it for $3 a month.

I get it for $3 a month, others do to. if you are new to the service you get a 50% discount but you can do your own homework on what that costs. From then on anyone can get it for $3/month. $35 a year is all you need to pay if you regularly use the service.

That is $35 real dollars, most people buy it in one of the two sale periods, then you get your participation credits deducted.. You can pay $35 a year or real money.

Thats cheap, heck I pay over 50% of that to support this site that I also get value from, I see you like free here too, everywhere it appears.

Metla · Dec 3, 2022

Interesting, seems one can't understand the concept of free and the other doesn't understand what spin is.

XhendrickX · Dec 3, 2022

Lefthook said:
It would be great if it had an offline piece to it I agree. However, in your scenario I think if you lost internet connection for a month or months you likely wouldn't be simracing anyway.
Honestly give it a go for a 3 month sub just so you can say you did it. You won't need to buy a thing initially. There is the Formula Vee, the incoming Toyota and Mazda on road courses to keep you busy. You have nothing to lose. If you don't like it, simply don't renew. You'll be glad you did, even if you hate it because at least you'll know.

You can play ACC and rF2 offline easily. I have no problem buying content my issue as a single player has always been why the hell must I be online to play/access content I already paid for that is mine?? Start of the year my internet was down for over a week and that was an eye opener as to what sims I should invest on and drop.

Momperface · Dec 3, 2022

metalnwood said:
If you walk in to a store and buy something for $75 and they tell you that they are going to give you a $40 credit and you only hand over $35 what did you pay? Did you still pay $75 because they didnt physically hand you $40 and then take it back?

It is $75 and it costs you $35 I dont care what the hangar price was, its what I paid.

Seriously, this is petty, if you paid $35 you paid $35. This is really bottom of the barrel arguments against its pricing.

cool, how do i only hand over and pay for an iracing sub minus this credit?............... becuase in reality you have to hand over the "75" in your example, you never get that money back in your account,

it's honestly creepy how people bend over backwards to defend iracings double dipping price model

and people think we are an intelligent species when most humans still display tribal instincts on a daily basis

metalnwood · Dec 3, 2022

Momperface said:
cool, how do i only hand over and pay for an iracing sub minus this credit?...............

it's honestly creepy how people bend over backwards to defend iracings double dipping price model

and people think we are an intelligent species when most humans still display tribal instincts on a daily basis

You should read all of the posted information and it will be clear when you get the credits and when you don't.

It's not rocket science and there is no creepy iracing person forcing you to do it.

I think most people here play their chosen sims for more than one year, thats when you will have accrued the credits to make the second and following years cheaper.

I think you fully understand this as do others.

Momperface · Dec 3, 2022

metalnwood said:
You should read all of the posted information and it will be clear when you get the credits and when you don't.

It's not rocket science and there is no creepy iracing person forcing you to do it.

I think most people here play their chosen sims for more than one year, thats when you will have accrued the credits to make the second and following years cheaper.

I think you fully understand this as do others.

ok if iracing cost 75 for a sub how do i only hand over 35 like in your example?

metalnwood · Dec 3, 2022

Momperface said:
ok if iracing cost 75 for a sub how do i only hand over 35 like in your example?

It was noted a couple times previsouly in the thread, it wasn't said a new member would get this for first year but was a member saying what they were paying, which is what he and many members are paying.

You get participation credits up to $40/year for running in official races, the average number of races you need to do is ~ 1.25 races per week across two series.

Your credits are exactly what they say, they can be used in place of $ for anything. If you save them up when you need to pay the $75 you can have $40 deducted from your credits and you visa will be charged $35 for the next years service.

I imagine that it encourages people to run in official races to keep the numbers high although 1.25 races is not a lot to have to do.

Momperface · Dec 3, 2022

ah ok, so new members pay full whack, then the classic sunken cost fallacy kicks in and manipulates people into spending more,

so if someones having to spends a sub for access how exactly is the toyota "free"?

that's like saying all netflix films are free

Kenny Paton · Dec 3, 2022

Guys, this discussion is starting to go round in circles.
I'm not a subscriber but had no problem understanding what "free" meant in the iRacing concept and I'm pretty sure everyone else did as well, even if they pretend not to.
So how's about discussing the actual new content.

Momperface · Dec 3, 2022

Kenny Paton said:
Guys, this discussion is starting to go round in circles.
I'm not a subscriber but had no problem understanding what "free" meant in the iRacing concept and I'm pretty sure everyone else did as well, even if they pretend not to.
So how's about discussing the actual new content.

free has a meaning in language, iracing can't just magically change the meaning or "concept" of free

Gonzalo Camara · Dec 3, 2022

Maybe we are forgetting the real meaning of the word. Usually you or someone else is paying for it. Health care, education, free apps, email services, and even a free drink for your friend. Sometimes you are paying with your taxes, sometimes your data are the payment, sometimes your duty to be grateful to your buddies are... so, what's free really mean? We can debate deeply about how a word can be seen from many different perspectives.

iRacing is my main simulator, and for me is the most expensive one being there for more than 12 years. Now, it can be also the cheapest when you rent its services for 5 dollars for 3 months enjoying base content. I know there is not much appreciation here for it, but that doesn't mean between all the subscription services that I know, this company has still some love for their users.

Damage Inc · Dec 3, 2022

I don't understand why Iracing cannot sell an "offline" version for those not too bothered about multiplayer, I would imagine a fair few would get an online sub from time to time, also people who previously race online who stop paying the sub have the game revert to offline, so people can still "play" what they bought, but they just can't use the muiltiplayer infrastructure without the sub. Surely that's win/win for everyone?

F_B · Dec 3, 2022

Every damn Iracing thread has to derail. Every single one of them. It's like a law of nature.

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