F1 2012 Wing angles

[Karl Fuss]

OK, So I have to say this whole wing angle thing is really disappointing in F1 2012.

I was touring around Austin the last couple days sorting out the racing line and working on a set up. Ended up with 9/9 wings and felt pretty good about it. Didn't set any stellar times, but that's been the norm for me with this game so far, so not unusual.

Last night i decided to try out the lower rear wing thing that i've been reading about. I lowered the rear to 3 and left everything else as it was. I was expecting to lose the balance of the car completely through the turns but nothing happened. I could take the high speed corners just as easily with 9/3 wings as i could with 9/9 wings What a big disappointment.

This little issue is starting to bug me more and more. Aero is such a big thing with an F1 car. How can you make a game that seems to have no effect on the car when you change something so important as wing angle?

 

[Graham Laing]

I know it's counter-intuitive, but I quite like it so far. I am so used to low front wing and high back wing (generally) in the previous releases, that I am finding this interesting.

Maybe because I dislike understeer, and prefer an bit of oversteer, it's working out ok for me. High front for turn-in, and a pretty low rear to make it a bit twitchy at the back.

They did announce that the back end was going to be a bit more stable, more planted, in this release, so it's not totally unexpected. Whether it is realistic or not, I'll let's others who know better decide, but I am adopting to it and liking it personally.

 

[Karl Fuss]

F1 2011 low front wing and high back wing gives understeer right?

I love so many things about the game so far. But this aero thing is perplexing. I have just heard that 1/1 wings offers even better grip, like the 11/11 spring thing before the patch in F1 2011. I haven't tested this myself yet, so can't comment, but have heard it form other members of my league so i trust their opinion.
It still makes no sense to me though... lowering the wings should make you lose it all over the place.
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[Peter Evans]

F1 2011 low front wing and high back wing gives understeer right?

I love so many things about the game so far. But this aero thing is perplexing. I have just heard that 1/1 wings offers even better grip, like the 11/11 spring thing before the patch in F1 2011. I haven't tested this myself yet, so can't comment, but have heard it form other members of my league so i trust their opinion.
It still makes no sense to me though... lowering the wings should make you lose it all over the place.
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Well, if that's the case, then it can't be the wings alone. For example, I have been playing the **** out of Silverstone recently. Running 5-5 wing.. My friend told me he has been running 1-1 in time trials, and it works brilliantly.. I used my setup for Silverstone, where I can lap around the 1:32's on primes. As soon as I change it to 1-1 I have no grip through the fast corners. Imo, if there is a slight bug, the aero has to match a certain suspension setup.. Try this set up

Wings 1-1
Balance 11-11
Suspension 4-4 11-11
alignment top three all the way left, bottom one all the way to the right..

That is my friends setup.. I had a go using normal Silverstone settings, and the car wouldn't work at all. The above settings made a big difference, but I'm just not used to the car handling that way.

 

[Karl Fuss]

Well, if that's the case, then it can't be the wings alone. For example, I have been playing the **** out of Silverstone recently. Running 5-5 wing.. My friend told me he has been running 1-1 in time trials, and it works brilliantly.. I used my setup for Silverstone, where I can lap around the 1:32's on primes. As soon as I change it to 1-1 I have no grip through the fast corners. Imo, if there is a slight bug, the aero has to match a certain suspension setup.. Try this set up

Wings 1-1
Balance 11-11
Suspension 4-4 11-11
alignment top three all the way left, bottom one all the way to the right..

That is my friends setup.. I had a go using normal Silverstone settings, and the car wouldn't work at all. The above settings made a big difference, but I'm just not used to the car handling that way.

I haven't done any TT yet so i can't comment on the set ups there. I've only done a couple online session, a few quick races, and Melbourne in my career. What TT times did you get with your set up?

 

[Peter Evans]

I don't play on time trial, but I tried it in qual. Although, Montreal probably wasn't the best track to use as it's low downforce. I usually run everything fairly conservative.. 66 wing, 86 balance, 98 suspension stiffness

I just tried 1-1 wing, 11-11 balance - 22 ride height 1 front suspension 11 rear suspension and the alignment settings I posted above and was considerably faster. Will try a few more tracks shortly

 

[Peter Evans]

Hmm.. Think you could be right mate.. Imo, there is a set up bug. If you run the settings I listed above, you get unbelievable traction. You can run 1-1 if you want, and unfortunately it does work on high downforce tracks.. But, you can go even faster if you add a bit of wing. So, to clarify, the 1-1 wing only works if its couple with a setup that enables tremendous traction.. Pretty disappointing if you ask me

 

[Karl Fuss]

Hmm.. Think you could be right mate.. Imo, there is a set up bug. If you run the settings I listed above, you get unbelievable traction. You can run 1-1 if you want, and unfortunately it does work on high downforce tracks.. But, you can go even faster if you add a bit of wing. So, to clarify, the 1-1 wing only works if its couple with a setup that enables tremendous traction.. Pretty disappointing if you ask me

It is annoying... not sure if it's the same in the wet yet or not.
One of the things i love to do is test setups... i'll drive for hours in practice sorting out a consistent set up, but with this game it seems a lot of the factors have been taken away. Set wings low and springs high = speed regardless of corners.
I'm not sure if CM are planing to change it in anyway with another patch... but i hope so.