I never played any kind of Sim other than GT 1 and 3 back in the day and I have no memory of them really other than Feeder lol. So F1 2010-13 were the only kind of more serious racers I've played since those days, everything else was Mario Kart or Trackmania. I just wish I never bothered with Forza 5 now, I bought an Xbox One for it as I thought I was getting into racers more thanx to F1 2013 and finally turning all assists off. The problem I have now is Forza 5 just feels so much better, I cannot go back to F1 2013... it just feels like an arcade racer compared, like totally unrealistic, to where before I thought it felt pretty good. I just wish Forza 5 was a good game lol, the physics are great and have ruined F1 2013 for me, but the actual game is crap I just hope Codemasters go full sim and take a year out for F! 2015.