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Which steering/racing wheel?

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Philip Oakley, Jun 10, 2009.

  1. Hi guys,

    Been a member on here for about 3 weeks, since I got GTR Evolution. It's a great game, better than rFactor, imo.

    I'm looking at buying a racing wheel, but I'm not really sure which one. I feel the G25 is a bit over the top for my needs at the moment. I've been looking at three wheels, two by Thrustmaster, one by Logitech. I was wondering if any of you guys had any opinions about these three wheels:

    ing if any of First, the Formula Force EX, by Logitech.
    http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/gaming/pc_gaming/wheels/devices/270&cl=gb,en

    Then, the Thrustmaster F430 Racing Wheel, by Thrustmaster.
    http://www.thrustmaster.com/product.aspx?ProductID=151&PlatformID=5

    Last, the RGT Force Feedback Pro Clutch Edition, by Thrustmaster.
    http://www.thrustmaster.com/product.aspx?ProductID=8&PlatformID=5

    Yeah, so I was wondering if any of you guys have any opinions on these wheels, would be really helpful, so I have a guideline of what to buy when it comes to the final decision.

    Thanks,

    Philip
     
  2. Anyone?

    I'm going to copy this first post to the GTR Evo topic, to see if I get any replies.
     
  3. Copied this thread from the Hardware topic, as I got no responses.

    Been a member on here for about 3 weeks, since I got GTR Evolution. It's a great game, better than rFactor, imo.

    I'm looking at buying a racing wheel, but I'm not really sure which one. I feel the G25 is a bit over the top for my needs at the moment. I've been looking at three wheels, two by Thrustmaster, one by Logitech. I was wondering if any of you guys had any opinions about these three wheels:

    ing if any of First, the Formula Force EX, by Logitech.
    http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/gaming/pc_gaming/wheels/devices/270&cl=gb,en

    Then, the Thrustmaster F430 Racing Wheel, by Thrustmaster.
    http://www.thrustmaster.com/product.aspx?ProductID=151&PlatformID=5

    Last, the RGT Force Feedback Pro Clutch Edition, by Thrustmaster.
    http://www.thrustmaster.com/product.aspx?ProductID=8&PlatformID=5

    Yeah, so I was wondering if any of you guys have any opinions on these wheels, would be really helpful, so I have a guideline of what to buy when it comes to the final decision.
     
  4. Bram

    Bram
    Roaring Pipes Maniacs | #27 Staff Premium Member

    Why is the G25 over the top for you if i may ask?
     
  5. That RGT Force Feedback Pro Clutch Edition looks promising.. Any comments, does anyone have it? I have the same issue, can't afford G25 but need the clutch..
     
  6. I'm testing a lot of those wheels now for a Dutch website. And I have to say that Formula Force EX has a good price/performance ratio At the price of sub €70 it does fairly well and has subtle FFB (for it's price class!)
    I should get the F430 this week and the RGT was not in stock unfortunately.

    I'm also testing/ have tested other wheels :)

    The RGT and F430 look promising because they use a belt in stead of cogs. So the FFB must be very good, and noise should be low. Also the new pedal unit(s) from Thrustmaster are good ones. (I already tested on the Thrustmaster FGT Vibration feedback). Stiff brake pedal, the unit doesn't move anymore like they did in the past.
    The Formula Force EX I tested had a weird thing at the brake pedal. At the end of travel it moved to the right.. Most probably a manufacturing failure or so. As I've never felt that on other EX's or the former Formula |Force GP
     
  7. edit.
     
  8. Ok, thanks Johan and Kennett.

    Johan, does the Force Formula FX have gear paddles, or is it buttons on the wheel to gear change, like I heard? If so, what's it like, better or worse?
     
  9. delete :p
     
  10. http://www.techzine.nl/uploaded/22529_02ecd224.JPG
    That pic shows all :).
    Link to review: http://www.techzine.nl/reviews/618/1 (But it's in Dutch), but you can still look the pics.. Just click on them for big ones :)


    It's buttons, and tbh, I don't like it. I prefer real paddles. Better reachable.
     
  11. What Jari said!

    +

    I have an RGT, it's got pretty good feedback, but the pedals are the best feature of it, but beware this wheel is not reliable at all! As in not very well built. Had to change the shifters 6 times and the belt slips allot as well as some technical problems with the FFB acting strangley, as for the noise it makes a bit but not to bad.

    I would say look for a Logitech Momo , it's a better wheel for me and more reliable ( i use to have one few years back ) But the pedals are not as good as the RGT's. Or even better as Jari said get the Logitech Driving Force GT.



    Bram, merge these threads:

    http://forum.racedepartment.com/gtr-evolution/19696-steering-racing-wheel.html#post339460
     
  12. When did you buy the RGT? Maybe it's from one of the first series.
    I've had a Thrustmaster Enzo FFB before which wasn't reliable either.
    The list of problems:
    Part of casing broke - not solved
    4x the shifter paddles broke - free parts from TM
    Inner soldering broke, why buttons didn't work anymore - soldered myself
    Clamp broke INSIDE the wheel.. - fixed myself with some iron parts
    spring in brake pedal broke - not fixed, stopped using the wheel
    Pedal unit was too light..


    Bought a Logitech MOMO Force (red) secondhand

    Now I use a Fanatec Porsche wheel for everyday use.

    I must say the TM GT2-1 Vib feedback I'm testing now, has some good paddles behind the wheel. The pedals are good and the wheel feels good. It all feels much better than my old TM Enzo. That Enzo was a piece of crap, except for it's Force Feedback.

    The black MOMO has potmeter problems and it loses center..
     
  13. Ye it's one of early ones but heard some of later ones have problems to, they just reinforced the shifters on the later models I think.
     
  14. Yeah the new paddles have a much better design. They're stiffer and the inside looks better. (Tho I've no pics :( ). The old paddles had problems at the resistance when the 'click' had to happen.

    Did you know the paddles on the Saitek R660GT Force feedback have no click ;). Also the seq shifter on that wheel has no click. But the travel on those paddles is fairly long.
     
  15. Is the Saitek R660GT not another one for the OP to consider? my friend has one and he likes it.

    Another option maybe :p
     
  16. http://www.techzine.nl/reviews/610/Saitek-R660GT-Force-Feedback.html
    pics in that review :p

    I found the pedals feel nicely but the springs are not that strong. Force feedback has a little less feel than Logitech but it's stronger :). The rubber on the wheel makes for good grow of callus as it's a bit rough...

    Clamp is the best and simplest I've ever seen honestly..
     
  17. Dietmar

    Dietmar
    Premium Member

    My first wheel was a Logitech Force EX. It was as good as long it lasted... and that was unforunately not long enough for my taste.

    Time wise maybe 1,5 years, but as soon as I started using it heavily I recognized that it was wearing out. At the end it felt like the wheel would break away any second.

    A friend who wanted to try sim racnig took it and I think he has still now and then some fun with it, But he on purpose did not touch my G25, as he knew he would be spoiled :).

    If you already know that you have fun doing this, dont waste money buying something cheap, if you can afford. I think I have seen the G25 for 170 €.
     
  18. Because I'm only 14, I get £8 a week, and I don't think I need it atm, because I wouldn't have a proper seat or anything to play it with, unless you could recommend a cheap one?...

    So, Damien, you're saying the RGT is unreliable? That F430 review looked quite good, I think I'm leaning towards the F430, any bad points about it?
     
  19. Hmm the F430 and FGT 2-in1 have the same casing behind the wheel. I suddenly see comparing pics the photo works guy made..

    What i don't understand from Thrustmaster that where the grips are on the wheel, they made a joint there. Where Logitech has no joint there on the grips, but it has on the plastic parts..