What's up with those ads?

Discussion in 'Bugs, Suggestions & Feedback' started by Roland Warmenhoven, Jan 14, 2012.

  1. Roland Warmenhoven

    Roland Warmenhoven Premium Licensed

    Please, PLEASE tell me you guys are kidding??

    ADS randomly placed between threads and at the bottom of every 1st, 2nd and 3rd post of EVERY THREAD?

    Is that really the way you want to go with RaceDepartment?
    Beacause it is most definitely not what I would like to see... plus it really takes the point out of having people donating doesn't it?
  2. Ivo Simons

    Ivo Simons Licensed

    Jeez relax.
    You can say it also in a more normal way. We are not on the Call Of Duty forum.
  3. Roland Warmenhoven

    Roland Warmenhoven Premium Licensed

    OK, you have a point; maybe I went a little over the top with the question marks indeed..
    It's just that I was rather (still am a little) shocked when I first saw this..

    Guess there's no way to tone down my thread title now anyways, right?
  4. Stuart Thomson

    Stuart Thomson Licensed

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  5. Bram Hengeveld

    Bram Hengeveld pןǝʌǝbuǝɥ ɯɐɹq sɐ ɐıןɐɹʇsnɐ uı uʍouʞ osןɐ Premium

    Its just a test Roland, relax man. We have always remained free from ads from the first day we started this community and I have really hoped to stay that way until forever.

    Unfortunately I made myself a promise two years ago to never put in anymore private funds into the website apart from an occasional donation to the site. The first two years I have privately funded 90% of this communities costs and in december xose and me again had to open the wallet big time to pay for the ridiculous costs we have made during the migration period.

    The simracing community isn't known for their extreme generosity and the larger we grow the harder it is cover the costs of this website. A phenomena I have never understood but finally accepted.

    Our donators of the last years have been AWESOME lets get that straight. A small group of people have kept this place alive. But the point I cannot accept is that it are always the same people having to pay for other peoples pleasure. If you look at this thread only you see that our staff, that already spends tons of hours a day on the joy of others, is actively donating which is totally ridiculous.

    A donation system is extremely unfair and that has to change. We are really trying to find ways to give our donators more benefits on the forum. I am thinking of allowing small signatures, user titles, unlimited download possibilities, etc (please post ideas if you have them)

    However your point about having to donate and in the same time watching ads is absolutely valid. Those who have an active donation running should NEVER have to watch any google ads.

    Let us first see if this actually works and ill do my best to find a way to hide them completely for active donators and staff. Or maybe we will just dump the whole idea, for now its just a test to measure some results.
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  6. David Carter

    David Carter Licensed

    If the ads help keep this website going then I fully support the decision, If we all click on the ads then we are giving something back to RD and that is something I am prepared to do.
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  7. David Jundt

    David Jundt Licensed

    I am not against it. But can they be at the top or at the bottom? It's quite strange between posts and topic titles:confused:
  8. Dewald Nel

    Dewald Nel Proudly South African Premium Licensed

    Just put the ads on the side, where there's nothing.

    Because, whilst I agree that it's necessary, the current implementation is utterly annoying.
  9. Chris Butcher

    Chris Butcher Red Bull Gridsters 2012 Champion Premium Licensed

    I think you have to remember that this is a new concept for these guys, so its still a WIP, bear in mind Bram has said at the moment it's just a test, so they have to learn how to implement it too. Give the guys some time :)
  10. Roland Warmenhoven

    Roland Warmenhoven Premium Licensed

    Thank you Bram, for taking the time for a comprehensive reply, and for sharing those insights.
    As mentioned above, I admit to overreacting at first; Obviously something like the introduction of ads would not be a careless decision.

    From just browsing the forums I couldn't help noticing that indeed the ratio between total members and number of donating members seems somewhat odd, but I could not imagine it being that disproportional that actually admins and staff members need to pay up to keep this community afloat.. :eek:
    That indeed is crazy, I do not understand how most people can implicitly assume that everything on the internet should be free..

    So with this knowledge, on second thought I can fully understand, and I think support, the decision to explore this possibility. If that's one of the things that will prevent this community from downfall it'll be a no-brainer.
    However, if somewhere in the future this forum software could be enhanced to exempt active donators from ads, that'll be yet another reason for me to keep donating.

    So forgive me for talking before thinking..:oops:
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  11. Bram Hengeveld

    Bram Hengeveld pןǝʌǝbuǝɥ ɯɐɹq sɐ ɐıןɐɹʇsnɐ uı uʍouʞ osןɐ Premium

    WHich will happen again when the RDLMS can be taken down in a minute :)
  12. Jan Larsen

    Jan Larsen Premium Licensed

    Agree, donaters should be free from adds. I dont really mind not having extra features to play with, but the adds really gets to me.
  13. Bram Hengeveld

    Bram Hengeveld pןǝʌǝbuǝɥ ɯɐɹq sɐ ɐıןɐɹʇsnɐ uı uʍouʞ osןɐ Premium

    Let me hear it when you see one Jan, should be disabled for you and other donators :)
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  14. Eric Estes

    Eric Estes Premium Licensed

    *poof* - gone for me. Thanks for doing that.
  15. Jan Larsen

    Jan Larsen Premium Licensed

  16. Bram Hengeveld

    Bram Hengeveld pןǝʌǝbuǝɥ ɯɐɹq sɐ ɐıןɐɹʇsnɐ uı uʍouʞ osןɐ Premium

    can't assign those to a usergroup yet, working on that
  17. Jan Larsen

    Jan Larsen Premium Licensed

    Cheers, no biggie though if they refuse to be removed.
  18. Bram Hengeveld

    Bram Hengeveld pןǝʌǝbuǝɥ ɯɐɹq sɐ ɐıןɐɹʇsnɐ uı uʍouʞ osןɐ Premium

    It seems to be a limitation in the forum software. With vbulletin we had the option to add adblocks with special usergroup permissions but as xenforo is still early in its development the devs havent yet emphasized on such features i think.

    Anyways, will do my best to solve it :D
  19. Bram Hengeveld

    Bram Hengeveld pןǝʌǝbuǝɥ ɯɐɹq sɐ ɐıןɐɹʇsnɐ uı uʍouʞ osןɐ Premium

    @Jan, can you confirm they are gone now? If so, bless the lord: i can finally code :D
  20. Bram Hengeveld

    Bram Hengeveld pןǝʌǝbuǝɥ ɯɐɹq sɐ ɐıןɐɹʇsnɐ uı uʍouʞ osןɐ Premium

    mmm, might be an issue due to double usergroups.