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Trucks feel like I am driving on ice?

Discussion in 'Automobilista' started by Stingraymx, Mar 18, 2016.

  1. Stingraymx

    Stingraymx
    Premium Member

    Maybe its my old Logitech Wingman FF GP wheel (or i am just useless!), but i can't get around a lap without under-steering off into the grass, or doing a 360 under acceleration. Have similar issues in the Rallycross Lancer, whereas the "circuit" cars like the MetalMoro and F3 are pretty decent.
    Have tried to persevere and practice, but its next to impossible !!!...Would setup changes make significant differences ? ...thanks
     
  2. ouvert

    ouvert
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    Nah, they drive just fine, hard but fine..brake earlier, accelerate later
    Metalmoro is far beyond decent..
     
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  3. Stingraymx

    Stingraymx
    Premium Member

    Think that supports "i am just useless" as the reason for my troubles!!
     
  4. ouvert

    ouvert
    Premium Member

    Perhaps you just need better pedals of even wheel, good fov to judge distances, patience and practice :)
     
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  5. It's all about smooth inputs. Like in a real high-hp/rwd car, if you just slam on the gas or brakes to full, you just spin. Add gas smoothly and gradually and you'll get better grip and speed. Also remember that you can't turn while braking 100%, so start to brake a little early and if you start to understeer, gradually let off the brake and feather the throttle a bit. When you come into a turn too hot and just jam on the brakes, you'll plow right through it into the barrier no matter how much steering angle you add.

    Ross Bentley's "Speed Secrets" is also worth a read if you don't have it. The first one is the most useful, though I think the "ultimate" edition is the same price and includes the same content edited together with some of the later material. I found it invaluable as I was learning to drive in HPDE events with the local NASA chapter and the same principles apply in sim racing as they do in real life.
     
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  6. Stingraymx

    Stingraymx
    Premium Member

    All good info....thanks guys.....practice, practice, practice !....I will go tell the wife :)
     
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  7. xnorb

    xnorb
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    Just think what those trucks are. The mass is higher above the ground on super soft suspension, meaning those trucks are extremely affected by weight transfer. Combined with insane 'Murica!! power in the engine it should be clear that you need to drive them very softly.
     
  8. hex

    hex

    Though I am able to drive those beasts without having the feeling they're on ice, I would love to see further development of the Formula Truck game. Maybe a few physics updates here and there - just like GSCE/AMS cars are getting periodically (last FT update is already 1 year old). Not to mention graphics revamp, for example to match Automobilista standards :sneaky::inlove:
     
  9. xnorb

    xnorb
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    Oops, thought we're talking Supertrucks :)
     
  10. If OP is referring to Supertrucks then the reason they understeer is because they're HORRIBLE racing cars from the perspective of someone wanting to drive fast around the track with maximum grip. That's why they're great. Robbie Gordon apparently created them specifically to create a series focused around driver skill rather than teams paying for better cars that are objectively faster. So the trucks are trying to kill you, they're meant to. Its about taming a beast literally.

    For Rallycross its understeering because its AWD. That's a normal feature of that type of car. Learn to deal with it. AWD has its advantages too.
     
  11. hex

    hex

    OK, I'm lost now. I honestly thought he was referring to Formula Truck. Sorry guys, but when I see "trucks" I mean trucks, not supertrucks.
     
  12. Well since I don't have Formula Truck in my version of AMS then I presume it must refer to the only trucks in the game I'm playing. :p
     
  13. My problem is :
    1) When at straight line I press full throttle ,I can't see anything especially AI Opponent. I can see only the sky.

    2) Problem with jump I don't know how to jump properly. Supertruck will not landing in the correct angle. Can I correct angle when car fly in the air?
     
  14. alexSchmurtz

    alexSchmurtz
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    1) Don't put the pedal to the floor, be gentle on the throttle… :p

    2) Lift the throttle entering the ramp, Supertruck should fly and land more horizontally. When you're in the air, accelerating should move up the nose, braking move it down… But I must admit this part is too tricky for me! :D

    I really don't master them but like many said, you really have to accelerate slowly, brake early, turn gently. It is all about being smooth and try to limit the weight transfers. Ais are doing mistakes too, you'll pass them by being more consistent but not necessarily faster!
     
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  15. ouvert

    ouvert
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    Brake on the ramp start a little, than full throotle.. Don't brake or steer mid air unless you wanna do correction
    And watch Niels YT video about how to fly with super trucks....
     
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  16. 1) Raise your seating position.

    2)
     
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