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Time to clean or replace the Pots

Discussion in 'Sim Racing Hardware' started by Alex Townsend, Oct 11, 2016.

  1. Alex Townsend

    Alex Townsend
    Premium Member

    So guys. I'm having accelerator issues on my Fanatec CSR Elite pedals. Basically they don't ever get to 100% fully depressed and when released it goes down to about 10% and flutters around that level sometimes going below and above and sometimes eventually settling down to zero.
    I've been searching for ages on the Internet forums and how to websites for any information as to what Pots they use or how to repair or clean them.

    Anyone out there in the community have any experience of cleaning these things?
    Hints and tips/Dos and Don'ts most welcome.
    Or if anyone knows the model numbers so I can maybe just replace them and have some spare for the future would be even better.
    I have asked Fanatec if they can advise the model number or type but they've nit got back to me yet. Only to advise previously that they dont stock replacement sensors for these pedals only for CSPs
    Cheers.
     
  2. kamackeris

    kamackeris
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    I have a set of t3pa pedals and after a bit of use I can't seem to get 100% either
     
  3. Alex Townsend

    Alex Townsend
    Premium Member

    Do they use potentiometers?
    If so it could be the same issue. I'll be getting some contact cleaner this weekend and will attempt cleaning.
    The Fanatec pedal, once adjusted to the next hole on the pedal shaft decreases throw but has temporarily fixed my issue.
    This due to the runner going further into the accelerator pot housing and thus the wiper using a slightly different track within the pot.
     
  4. Richard Hessels

    Richard Hessels
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    Just normal cleaning would do it, that contact stuff only attracts more dust.
     
  5. Alex Townsend

    Alex Townsend
    Premium Member

    Well i tried spraying some contact cleaner in there and it was fine for a bit and then went back to how it was before.
    Thinking this one needs dismantling and cleaning inside. Some sites show using the eraser on the end of a pencil helps clean and remove oxidisation from the wiper contact.
    Will give it a go but Fanatec also got back to me and advised they have some in their UK office so going to order some regardless as want to keep these things running for as long as possible.
    After my PC case and GPU upgrade I've not got any room to move for any sim gear upgrades this year or next... :cry:
     
  6. Qazdar Karim

    Qazdar Karim
    Premium Member

    If you can find some Hall Effect sensors it would solve your issues with spiking, it's really frustrating! They seriously need to stop using pots for pedals, it just doesn't work.
     
  7. Alex Townsend

    Alex Townsend
    Premium Member

    How would you install hall effect sensors on the CSR Elites?
     
  8. Qazdar Karim

    Qazdar Karim
    Premium Member

    I have no idea about the CSR elite wiring. But it shouldn't be that different from other pedals sets.
     
  9. Alex Townsend

    Alex Townsend
    Premium Member

    Well the CSR Elite pedals have potentiometers inside housings at the back of the pedal shafts. A plastic toothed shaft slides into the housing which connects with the potentiometer with a plastic toothed wheel on the end which turns the potentiometer.
    I've seen the CSP V1 and V2s has the hall effect sensors at the front of the pedal shafts and the magnet is inside the pedal arm.
    Hence why I asked how I'd connect hall effect sensors to a pedal set that has potentiometers. I'm not sure how I'd go about fitting them and where they would be located.
    Also would the mainboard for CSR Elites be able to understand the information coming from hall effect sensors or would that not matter as it would recalibrate to the information coming from their own onboard circuitry?
     
  10. Qazdar Karim

    Qazdar Karim
    Premium Member

    I bought this yesterday for my G27 pedals, as you can they are somehow linked to the potentiometer shaft and therefore can rotate with it. I hope it can give you some ideas.

     
  11. Alex Townsend

    Alex Townsend
    Premium Member

    What's the company name? I can't quite make it out on the box.
    Just thinking maybe there would be a way of hooking that up but there isn't that much room around the potentiometers on the Fanatec as they are inside the pedal shaft housing. But these guys may have some ideas or could even be working on a Fanatec mod.
     
  12. Alex Townsend

    Alex Townsend
    Premium Member

    Ok so just an update to let people know that I have repaired the pot and if anyone else is having similar issues to give this a go.
    (At least on the brief test this morning it seemed fixed anyway).

    What I did was to remove the pot housing from the pedal shafts and opened up the pot covers.
    There is a small square hole at the top. Sprayed some contact cleaner in there and then moved the wheel lock to lock back and forth for about 3 minutes. Sprayed some more in there and repeated for another 3 minutes
    Just in case this didn't work I also swapped the clutch and pedal assemblies over so at least I could race again properly if the repair wasn't successful.
    So far so good. Hope this helps anyone else having issues with these pesky pots
     
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  13. Where'd you have it shipped, to US? How much?
     
    Last edited: Nov 17, 2016
  14. Qazdar Karim

    Qazdar Karim
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  15. Thanks, contacted him and waiting for feedback, hope he ships to US. Oh, congrats at Johannesburg, just saw vid :)
     
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  16. Mark Breslin

    Mark Breslin
    Premium Member

    I'm looking to replace my throttle pot for the 3rd time in my pedals long history of use. I don't begrudge changing them, I just accept the wear'n'tear and buy/adapt pots from my local electronics store.
    However I'm intrigued with the Simulaje product. Can you tell me how you are getting on with them?
     
  17. Qazdar Karim

    Qazdar Karim
    Premium Member

    Got them like two weeks ago, haven't had time to test them yet :(
     
    Last edited: Nov 27, 2016
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  18. Qazdar Karim

    Qazdar Karim
    Premium Member

    Ok, i tested them today, i followed the video instructions, but it didn't work :(

    For now i exchanged brake and throttle pedals pots, since i'm using a load cell on the brake one :(
     
    Last edited: Nov 27, 2016
  19. Mark Breslin

    Mark Breslin
    Premium Member

    Mmm, thanks for the feedback. I too run with a load cell for the Brake. So the choice is to go for Simulaje, (throttle and clutch) or commit to Leo Bodnar potentiometer plus USB adaptor in preparation for maybe switching to TX300 wheel.