The Car, Track or just Me

Keith_G · Mar 17, 2014

I'll direct this question to @Peter Koch since you seem to know more about this game than anyone at RD. I have been driving R3E now and then and everything was feeling great. I have just tried the Zonda Comp without the corner markers and it went back to the terrible FFB feeling I had when first driving the game last April. Best described by me, as a little feed back when I am going straight and move the wheel slightly to either side, however when I turn a corner it is like the FFB is completely gone and I am floating. (Sorry I'm not good enough to describe it better, but it feels completely wrong)

With the Falken Ruf at Nurburgring Comp it felt great with exactly the same Wheel and Game setup. So my real question is: Is it the car (Zonda), Track (RaceRoom Raceway), or just my setup, or does anyone else feel it like this?
I am using a Fanatec CSW (BMW rim) and probably have a wheel set from either you or Andy with a few minor mods. Computer is pretty new with Win8, I5, 32 gig of ram, SSD, and Nvidia 780. Just have no idea of why it all of a sudden feels terrible again. I own the Zonda and most Tracks so I will try it on other tracks when I get the chance but looking to see if this is happening to anyone else before I go messing with my setups and make it worse.

RaceNut · Mar 18, 2014

Hi Keith, can you share your wheel and game FFB settings here? I'll try them with my wheel (same as yours) and let you know what I find. I wasn't happy with the FFB in R3E last time I tried playing it using the CSW.

Keith_G · Mar 18, 2014

Thanks RaceNut. I would be happy to post the files and certainly appreciate any feedback or help. I also use the CSR elite Pedals (I think that is the correct name) and my brake seems to be almost useless with the Zonda. Not sure if there is something wrong with the pedals or settings but not sure if you can set a brake pedal range in R3E or not. I use this same setup in AC and driving the lotus T125s1 it seems perfect and I can lock up the front wheels anytime with my brake.

Peter · Mar 18, 2014

When it feels better next time you start it, you have a known problem.
It's like the ffb isn't loading 100% , not often but sometimes.
What I do when it happens is restart the game a few times.(If alt/f doesn't fix it).

It's no big deal for now because nothing will be the same when Marko and Mark are finished.

Andy Kettler · Mar 18, 2014

Wow you drive with FFB maxed out in R3E and the Wheel ?

Maybe thats too much for it and the effects are gone in corners.

Kjell Eilertsen · Mar 18, 2014

Peter Koch said:
It's no big deal for now because nothing will be the same when Marko and Mark are finished.

You know this or just hope it is so? I surely hope and think it will be so, but I dunno how much they will actually change so I might be in for a disappointment in the end.

Peter · Mar 18, 2014

Kjell Eilertsen said:
You know this or just hope it is so? I surely hope and think it will be so, but I dunno how much they will actually change so I might be in for a disappointment in the end.

I know it, nothing will stay the same. But this doesn't happens over night.

Keith_G · Mar 18, 2014

ak1504 said:
Wow you drive with FFB maxed out in R3E and the Wheel ?

Maybe thats too much for it and the effects are gone in corners.

It seemed to work pretty well even though I have tried it with many different combinations. I normally was using these settings but will turn off FF in the wheel and lower it in the game to see if it helps but this feeling was much more like Peter described where the game just didn't load properly.

Keith_G · Mar 18, 2014

Peter Koch said:
When it feels better next time you start it, you have a known problem.
It's like the ffb isn't loading 100% , not often but sometimes.
What I do when it happens is restart the game a few times.(If alt/f doesn't fix it).

It's no big deal for now because nothing will be the same when Marko and Mark are finished.

Thanks @Peter Koch and I will give it a go to see if it loads differently tonight if I get a chance. It certainly feels like something wasn't right and that would explain it. Glad to hear that FF will change in the future since it does seem inconsistent to me. I have definitely had the experience that the competitions feel very different than driving the same car and track when loaded from the game.

RaceNut · Mar 20, 2014

I tried using a couple of my wheel presets, one with zero spring & dampening, one with those set to 100%. Neither felt very communicative at all but, I have been spending most of my time in AC where I feel very connected to the track. In R3E, the wheel response and input feels very spongy or vague. I can tell when the brakes lock or the steer's lose grip but, not the grip-threshold.

I'll have to do some more testing in different cars with different settings when I have more time but, I think the FFB needs some magic touch as it is.

Warren Dawes · Mar 20, 2014

RaceNut said:
In R3E, the wheel response and input feels very spongy or vague. I can tell when the brakes lock or the steer's lose grip but, not the grip-threshold.

This has been my experience as well. After a while you tend to get used to it and allow for the slower response, but I'm hoping to see it improved. It was never a problem with Race 07 for me, and I find AC much better in this regard too.