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Team orders not longer forbidden in 2011

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by Bram, Dec 11, 2010.

  1. Bram

    Bram
    Roaring Pipes Maniacs | #27 Staff Premium Member

    Source: Autosport.com


    Good news for Ferrari :thumb:
     
  2. yeah and for other teams too..
     
  3. I think Bram choose the Ferrari since they are not good at coding messages.
     
  4. Bram

    Bram
    Roaring Pipes Maniacs | #27 Staff Premium Member

    I don't mind teamorders. The whole Hockenheim-gate thing was so blown out of proportions imo.
     
  5. Chris Butcher

    Chris Butcher
    Red Bull Gridsters 2012 Champion

    It really was. Anyway, I think Red Bull had more instances of team orders last year, but everyone hates Ferrari, so they got all the attention
     
  6. Team orders are still not 100% allowed, they've just changed the rule paragraph reference to use the old paragraph 151c. Which means stewards are free to punish teams for issuing team orders if they are too blatant, like the Massa or Barichello incidents. If a team down the field decides to switch driver positions and not really affecting the race it's ok.


     
  7. I don't mind team orders, and I think it's good that they've been brought back because whether it's a small team order or not, it's still an order. What gets me is that some people totally disagreed about the Ferrari incident at Hockenheim and called it a disgrace, yet they were quite happy for Vettel to move over for Webber to win the WDC if they'd been running 1 and 2 with Alonso 3rd in Abu Dhabi.
     
  8. Moving over is OK, blocking other teams isnt. I think thats the opinion the vast majority of race fans must have.... so this was a long time coming.
     
  9. My opinion on team orders:
    The driver's title is for the drivers, the constructor's title is for the teams. So the Hockenheim team order of Ferrari is an absolute non-sense. (as it didn't give Ferrari any + points, only affected the driver's championship), Red Bull is a whole different story as they never said to Webber that he should let Vettel pass.
    But, team order is fine if the other driver behind is really a lot faster and maybe he could make some places up if the other driver of the team lets him pass. Well in this case of course he could pass the other guy normally, but there's no point taking the risk and have both drivers out of the race.