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Standing start: how to?

Discussion in 'RACE 07 - Official WTCC Game' started by NickB, Nov 8, 2009.

  1. Hi guys,

    Thanks to your help and a bit of training, I'm starting to manage to keep those WTCC mostly on the track now. And even routinely win races against the AI (well... at 90% that is :) ). So it will soon be time to join the Racing Club :)

    Before that, another question about a particular technique: the standing start!
    I find it very hard to nail down, being always passed by 2 or 3 cars in the second race. Do you guys have any advice? (what sort of rpm to use... how to sequence throttle and cluch......)
    I drive the Leon 07, and use a G25 with everything manual and all aids off.

    Thanks!

    Nick
     
  2. Neil Tennant

    Neil Tennant
    @ Simberia @Simberia

    FWD cars are a pain to get cleanly off the line, but try about 50% throttle in first with the clutch down, then let the clutch up smoothly when the lights change

    RWD are 'easier' to get a clean start with, maybe upto 75% throttle instead of 50, just be careful with the power otherwise u will be facing the other way :bad:
     
  3. Bram

    Bram
    Ezekiel 25:17 Staff Premium

    I rev it up until it almost hits the limiter and with autoclutch off i fire it away with my clutch pedal :D
     
  4. I use auto clutch (haven't got a clutch on my Thrustmaster Ferrari F430 FFB), and can never make a quick getaway.

    Any ideas???
     
  5. I'm like Bram, throttle up just before the limiter and release clutch smoothly.

    The best thing to do is just pratice it. It's a case of balancing the throttle and letting the clutch of smoothly. If you feel the wheels starting to loose traction then ease the throttle back a bit.
     
  6. Dennis Phelan

    Dennis Phelan
    more about staying on track. Premium

    Play with the clutch setting in Options-Control Settings-Advanced-Clutch Sensitivity, and play with the numbers. If you have the clutch on a button, tapping it after release can help but usually throttle modulation is best, as has been noted.
     
  7. I don't use the clutch at all when starting. All I do is start in Neutral, rev up until the engine's just bouncing off the limiter, then when the lights go out I shift into 1st and away I go. I usually ease on the throttle and keep the revs constant to make sure that I get as little wheelspin as possible. Nearly every race I've done using this has seen me grab a few positions off the line. :)
     
  8. i usualy rev it up close to the redline (depends on car) then i let the clutch snap on green light
    and adjust the throttle to keep the weelspin low as possible 8 out of 10 times its a run on the guys in front
     
  9. Can I ask if you're using 'auto clutch'? Also, what clutch sensitivity setting are you on?

    Thanks
     
  10. Thanks a lot, seems I just need a bit of practice then, time to schedule a 'standing start' session on a deserted track somewhere!

    Good point Neil about the FWD vs. RWD issue, I tried an Aston Martin GT yesterday and starting was much much easier than in my usual Leon.

    Oh and Rhys, please don't try this at home ;-)
     
  11. I used to 'auto-clutch' before, now I am in manual clutch mode, but the start is one f the few moments I use the clutch.

    Before starting was bad, with the change to manual I improved significantly (my impression).
     
  12. Can I ask how I'd use manual clutch when I don't have a clutch pedal in my setup? (paddles only and only 2 pedals)
     
  13. You can assign a button for it too, works almost as fine as clutch pedal.
    I use the clutch pedal also only at starts, just to jump off from it when light goes green, and play with throttle. Same can be done with button too.
     
  14. I have clutch under a button also. Don't need it except in the start or when i spin. Which is often...

    Starts in neutral, rev's to the limit and when the lights change pop in first and try not have a lot of wheelspin after the initial "kick". Usually i pick up two-three places in the start by that.
     
  15. I'm a bit above average at standing starts relative to my peers that I race with. I can usually get a good start relative to the other 25 guys on the grid that i race with. Here's how I do it.

    Rev to just over red line and watch the light. As soon as it goes green, I shift to first and even depress the throttle a little more.... then it's all about sensory input.... listen for the traction and the engine telling you to shift to 2nd. You may have to come off the throttle just a bit as your tires begin too much spin. You want optimal grip through this process but it still requires a lot of throttle.

    Try this and see what you get.... i don't use clutch at all.
     
  16. Thanks guys - will give it a go later ;-)