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Setup according to car or personal style?

Discussion in 'R3E Setups' started by Azfalt Raser, Apr 26, 2015.

  1. Hello.
    In this sim.....

    I used the default setups for the 2013 DTM cars on the Red Bull Ring
    Then I lowered the gearing 1 notch (which I know nothing about) for this track.

    My best times
    Audi 1:26.446
    Mercedes 1:26.001
    BMW 1:26.597

    I seemed to have hit a wall for laptimes.

    Audi
    Feels top heavy, has lots of weight transfer, feels powerful. It understeers everywhere.
    You can feel the weight transfer when you brake, turn, or accelerate. So alot of stomping on the brakes to get the weight to transfer to front for grip. I spent, by far, the most time in this car. Best brakes.

    Mercedes
    This thing is a dream! Very forgiving. Corners flat, very little weight transfer, handles really well, but feels down on power. tends to 4 wheel drift in fast corners, predictable and easily controllable.
    Sounds strange, but hardest to drive fast.

    BMW
    Hardest for me to drive overall. Understeers and oversteers in the same corner, deceptively powerful. More towards the Audi in terms of weight transfer. But in between the other 2 cars. I don't like this car at all.

    Is it even possible to get the other 2 cars to handle like the Merc with the suspension tuning?
    Do you setup according to your driving style?
    Do you adjust to the car's handling and then fine tune it?
    Do adjustments make a HUGE difference?
    Do I even bother?

    It seems like a really long drawn out process to adjust - test, adjust - test..... and the game has crashed so often - and forgets the settings.

    Any help would be appreciated.
     
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  2. Kurt Vanhee

    Kurt Vanhee
    Premium Member

    For me its about the same. Driving the Audi feels best, smoothest. Bmw is harder to drive but gives me better laptimes.
    Mercedes gives me the worst feeling to drive.
    Setting the cars up with same settings does not give me same feeling and handling, which is good and how it should be?
     
  3. Leynad777

    Leynad777
    Premium Member

    I don´t think that there´s that much potential for improvements in this class. Due to cost reductions they all have the same transmission-system, suspensions, breaks, tyres, rear wings, electronics and so on. Only engines and chassis are from the different manufacturers within the same performance range.

    I watched the race on Saturday at Hockenheimring and in the qualifying the hole field was driving between 1:33 and 1:34 min. During the DTM-Challenge in R3E you find every car in the Top 10 field even one, two seconds faster than the real ones.

    A setup should be more related to the track than the car and the most differences in lap times will do IMHO the rear wing setting. Some defaults aren´t sufficient for the tracks.
     
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  4. Thanks Leynad777 for reminding me.
    I had been messing with the setups trying to get the car to feel a certain way, rather than to get faster laptimes for the track.

    I see some laptimes 2 or more seconds faster than my times. I tried another driver's settings that set really low laptimes and I couldn't even keep the car on the track with those settings.

    Obviously, it's my driving that is the problem.