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Sequential shifter, hard choice!

Discussion in 'Sim Racing Hardware' started by Hugo Hekkenberg, May 19, 2013.

  1. ARC team / Carbon sequential Gear

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  2. DerekSpeareDesigns / DSD Pro Seq. shifter

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  1. Hugo Hekkenberg

    Hugo Hekkenberg

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    Hello all,

    For a long time i drove my simracing games with the H shifter. I loved the hard work under racing but its no longer realistic. As a fan of GT cars i would like to switch to a realistic sequential shifter. My standard Fanatec seq. shifter is crappy and is resulting in double shifts.

    Now, ive seen 2 affordable shifters so far:

    1: The ARC team / Carbon sequential Gear - € 217,-

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    Or the #2: Derek Speare Designs / DSD Pro Seq. shifter - € 124, -

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    Maybe you guys have some experience with both of these shifters so you can tell me the differences. The shifter #1 is a lot more expensive. The question is: is it worth it?
     
  2. Alex Ball

    Alex Ball
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    I love mine. It's. BMW E39 sequential shifter plugged into a Leo bodnar USB Board. Really solid feeling. Worth a look.
     
  3. itrdc5

    itrdc5

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    I love mine too. It's an Alfa Romeo Selespeed shifter. It's small and compact but it requires a little more work than the BMW Steptronic in terms of wiring. A few videos of it in action in the RBR Movies section. I have a Frex Shift+ and EC Sim Pro Shift Step 2 as well.
     
  4. Gary Jibb

    Gary Jibb

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    I really enjoy my Frex Shift+. I do not think it should not be in the contention IMO.
    Also, not that I would EVER badmouth anything, nor is this what I am doing but the Derek Speare Sequential doesn't look as though it is as stiff as the Frex. By no means have I had a chance to use one, or been inside of a professional racecar with a sequential shifter to know better, but it just looks to easy. I like a very solid *chunk* feeling.
    Just my stupid opinion. I've said it before and I'll say it again. Go Frex!

    Or just make your own, can be more than 15$. I made my own paddle shifters and the cost difference more than made up for the authenticity. Not that they're cheap or un-realistic, there just not 400$ straight out of a LMP2.
     
  5. Vito Lombardi

    Vito Lombardi

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    Me waiting for this
     
  6. Mark Reynolds

    Mark Reynolds
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    Very nice, how much was that shifter mate ?
     
  7. Vito Lombardi

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  8. Richard Hessels

    Richard Hessels
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    My guess is the ARC has a bit more sophisticated internal system, where the Spare is a bit more straight forward. I like 1 extra feature of the ARC a lot, that you can adjust the resistance to suit your need.
     
  9. Kjell Eilertsen

    Kjell Eilertsen

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    How about the new Fanatec shifter?
    http://eu.fanatec.com/Shifters?product_id=676
    Combined H and Seq shifter, seems to be FAR better built than the old Fanatec shifters, but they ain't out just yet so you'd have to wait for it to come in stock (and preferably until there's a couple of reviews out too imo).
     
  10. Eifion Evans

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    Is the wiring a complex task to get a BMW steptronic shifter to work as a usb device? I need a seq shifter and this looks like a nice option but my electronics skills are non existent.

    Will any E39 steptronic shifter work? All else that's needed is a usb controller board and wiring/cables right? Any advice appreciated.

    Also, is the sequential mode on the TH8RS actually any good because I'l probably get one anyway for h-pattern cars.
     
  11. Stef Bord

    Stef Bord

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  12. Eifion Evans

    Eifion Evans

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    Thanks for the link. It does look rather complicated to be honest, but that might just be the google translation. Guess I'l try to research more into it.
     
  13. Richard Pittam

    Richard Pittam
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    I have the ARC Carbon and it is brilliant. After using the Fanatec and TH8 RS offerings this tramples all over them. I'm chuffed with mine........it makes me complete.
     
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  14. Anthony Levene

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    I'd also highly recommend the ARC Carbon. I love the feel of it. And like Richard said it's a big step up from the original Fanatec shifter and TH8 RS.
     
  15. Eifion Evans

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    I settled on a DSD shifter, very solid but mother of god it is loud . . too loud really. I'l need to build a solid metal frame before I can actually mount and use the shifter too, it's that tough :D
     
  16. Barry Rowland

    Barry Rowland

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    I had the DSD and bought a Carbon. Sold the DSD. Carbon cost more, but it feels much better in every way.