Season 6 Race 7 Shanghai - Incident Report

[Tim McIver]

Re-race: No incidents to report.

 

[Nicolas Rouge]

Re-race : no incidents to report.

 

[Valter Ostman]

Re-race : New post today after checking the replay.
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[David Turnbull]

re-race no incidents to report

 

[Valerio Vinassa]

re race:
lap 2
time 237.99
no damage for me
contact with Bob Laube inside turn T9 think no one like up the feet from throttle and when I saw that I hit him I wait for see were can go Bob with your car after that him recover the car we push again on throttle.Think race contact

lap 24
time 2625,80
no damage for me
I give a little bump at Anthony Ishak in T14 brake but hit him at about 20km/h the best that I could do but he was almost lock.Hope I not ruined your car mate I see you drive with difficult and go to pit after.

 

[Jim Hawley]

TS 130: I was 10mph faster into this turn than Jim

m8, In the race, at the point of contact I was about to turn in to the corner at 68mph, you were a couple of inches behind still doing 109mph

At the same point of contact in the practice start I was at 73mph, whilst you where at 131mph!

At the turn in point on lap 1 other drivers where in the 65-75mph area, forgive me if I braked too early?

Jim

 

[Peter Marshall]

Lap 1 Turn 4.
TS 130(-ish) Eliezer Vs Peter
Following Nico and Anthony I was too cautious into the braking zone? Eliezer made heavy contact with me.

Eliezer steamed messaged an apology immediately after the race which I accepted. Mistakes happen and I am often too conservative in the opening laps. In this case, I saw smoke rising [Jim and David off track] and I was focused on what Nico and Anthony were deciding about the corner.

 

[David McCradic]

m8, In the race, at the point of contact I was about to turn in to the corner at 68mph, you were a couple of inches behind still doing 109mph

At the same point of contact in the practice start I was at 73mph, whilst you where at 131mph!

At the turn in point on lap 1 other drivers where in the 65-75mph area, forgive me if I braked too early?

Jim

I do take responsibility for this incident, but your statement is a gross exaggeration. This is you at 68mph [as you say] http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/2797/16340810.jpg and me at
72mph at the same instant http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/7305/71471474.jpg

Prior to contact, these were our speeds from my perspective. http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/2527/78128156.jpg http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/5152/82574396.jpg

It is true that I was prepared through experience to do that corner a little faster than you on that lap, but that does not mean you are at fault for the incident.

Edit: I think my line through the corner is different as well.

 

[Eliezer Bartik]

TS 140 Me and Peter
Enter turn 4 Was behind and tried to hold position so was to close to Peter, seems that he brake a bit early but this is completely my safety fault, when I bumped him sending him to the wall ...SO SORRY Peter , fills sucks ruin your race.

TS 355 Me and Bob
Same corner same issue to close and unsafe distant on breaking zone
I was behind Bob late on breaks wheels lock and touched Bob make him spin ( I think wasn't any damage)
Sorry m8 please accept my apologies

 

[Jim Hawley]

Hmmm

It looks different from my replay, maybe there's some kind of sync issue going on?

the first two pics here are what my first post was based on, with the clock stopped at 30.394
http://img836.imageshack.us/i/racesteam20110505090606.jpg/
http://img585.imageshack.us/i/racesteam20110505090601.jpg/


If I let it roll on for another 0.05 to 30.451 which is within 0.001 of your capture it appears I am now at 73mph and yourself at 104, which is quite different to the 86 on your replay
http://img828.imageshack.us/i/racesteam20110505090800.jpg/
http://img822.imageshack.us/i/racesteam20110505090810.jpg/

This is most puzzling

Jim

 

[Reik Major]

re-race: no incidents to report

 

[Vincenzo Cavaliere]

re-Race no incidents to report

 

[Tim McIver]

Im pretty sure the speedometer reading is highly inaccurate on other peoples cars in the replay. I was checking top speeds a couple of races back and the figures made no sense.

 

[Nicolai Nicholson]

Im pretty sure the speedometer reading is highly inaccurate on other peoples cars in the replay. I was checking top speeds a couple of races back and the figures made no sense.

I agree. It tends to indicate later braking points than in reality. However, I do think the server replay can indicate difference in braking points better than local replays. E.g. my little analysis of the Tim vs. David T incident the server replay showed that you (Tim) had the latest braking point, David T the earliest and the two others more average braking point. Although I cannot trust the exact braking points it is enough to convince me of the braking order. Also, the fact that a car quickly catches up with the car ahead in the braking zone indicates a later braking point.

For me the solution to 90% of these incidents is a coasting approach.

 

[Andy Paries]

re-race:no incidents to report.

 

[Kurt Kjellin]

TS:146,02(my replay) L1 T4

Cristian d F hit me and put me off track, damage suspension. Hi did´nt wait for me.


TS897,83(my replay) L8 T11

Spun in front of Eliezer and made him go wide to avoid me. no contact
Sorry for that.

 

[Valter Ostman]

Re-race :

TS 2047 (in my own replay)
Me and Valerio.
In the last hairpin on lap 19 I brutally closed the door on Valerio. I didn't know you were so near my friend. I hope you can forgive me for that stupid action and hope that your car was ok after the hit. I think we had about the same speed, I did not get any damage at all. It made me glad to see that you still had the front wing on after our contact.
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[Valerio Vinassa]

no damage Valter feel nothing along the race.
....and then we need a bit of hardness.....:wink:

 

[Cristian Di Filippo]

TS:146,02 I have braked aftrer Kurt him jutly just before because was a block of cars.I have tired to discart for avoiding him and i committed a serious error i have put of the track Kurt.Excuse me I have unjustly damaged your competition :frown:

TS:2836 At the end of the along rectilinear in braked i have touched Andy from behind my error.Excuse me.

TS:3250 Always at the end of the along rectilinear in braked with Fabrice i have effected a dangerous manovre,Excuse me, where he has been good to avoid me and me stupid to try us at the end i think about even not deserving that point that i have earned because in some occasion i have not been correct as i would have wanted and to be perhaps rather I would deserve a punishment.

 

[Alex Galyutin]

TS 3142
Alex Galyutin vs Andy Paries
Andy was late on braking after the long back straight and went a bit wide, and I repeated his mistake and braked too late and also went wide, and touched Andy's car. I waited until Andy continues his run, and followed him. Sorry mate, that was just a small error. I hope it did not damage your car.