Sao Paulo released for rFactor 2

[Ryan Ogurek]

Sao Paulo, or the Brazil GP, has been released for users of rFactor 2 at no additional cost. The track is a 2.68 mile road course featuring two DRS zones.

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[Wedge]

ISI is partnering with Reiza Studios? Maybe Game Stock Car Extreme 2015 with rFactor 2 engine? Or even GSCE content for rFactor 2?

 

[jimortality]

Why do they not just call it Interlagos like everyone else does.

 

[JeffL]

Licensing

 

[jimortality]

Licensing

Oh! yet they're able to re-create the track?

 

[JeffL]

Can't copyright or trademark the earth, just the name.

 

[jimortality]

Can't copyright or trademark the earth, just the name.

Ah! so why when someone try's to do a mod of say Bathurst, it gets rejected on here???????? ha ha ha!!!! answer that one Mr Lasecki

 

[James Maskell]

Ah! so why when someone try's to do a mod of say Bathurst, it gets rejected on here???????? ha ha ha!!!! answer that one Mr Lasecki

That was an un-authorised conversion of someone elses track. The owners of the original track then asked for it to be removed.

Edit: so it wasn't their own work

 

[jimortality]

That was an un-authorised conversion of someone elses track. The owners of the original track then asked for it to be removed.

Edit: so it wasn't their own work

So someone could do their own version of Bathurst and call it anything? as Jeff says, you can't trademark the earth.

 

[James Maskell]

So someone could do their own version of Bathurst and call it anything? as Jeff says, you can't trademark the earth.

I am not challenging the fact that you can make your own and still call it Bathurst. It was just the fact that they took someone elses work without asking, converted to rf2 and then released it. That was the problem with that track.

 

[jimortality]

I am not challenging the fact that you can make your own and still call it Bathurst. It was just the fact that they took someone elses work without asking, converted to rf2 and then released it. That was the problem with that track.

No no I understand but surely the person that does it before has probably not got permission either so how can you say who has permission to copy tracks when you can't trademark or copyright the earth. Just say I do Bathhurst (absolutely no chance wouldn't know where to start lol) So I create it, who is it to say if it belongs to another person that has created it? I call mine tubhurst but the track is bathurst. Someone else does a copy of bathurst and callls it sinkhurst, is that their or my own as there is only copyright on the name.

 

[James Maskell]

No no I understand but surely the person that does it before has probably not got permission either so how can you say who has permission to copy tracks when you can't trademark or copyright the earth. Just say I do Bathhurst (absolutely no chance wouldn't know where to start lol) So I create it, who is it to say if it belongs to another person that has created it? I call mine tubhurst but the track is bathurst. Someone else does a copy of bathurst and callls it sinkhurst, is that their or my own as there is only copyright on the name.

What? Copyright only applies to the name in the idea that it cannot be exactly the same as what people actually have to pay for the rights to use, or what the right holders deem to require for you to pay for the rights. You don't have to pay for the name of the town where that track is located. But if you take someone's intellectual property and use it un-authorised or just claim it as yours that is flat out copying. When you make something from scratch it is yours and you have the rights to it.

 

[jimortality]

What? Copyright only applies to the name in the idea that it cannot be exactly the same as what people actually have to pay for the rights to use, or what the right holders deem to require for you to pay for the rights. You don't have to pay for the name of the town where that track is located. But if you take someone's intellectual property and use it un-authorised or just claim it as yours that is flat out copying. When you make something from scratch it is yours and you have the rights to it.

That's that all sorted then

 

[JeffL]

When I say earth, in legal terms it's called "commons" . You can call your track Indianapolis you just can't call it Indianapolis Motor Speedway or The Brickyard, it's pretty safe to assume those names have been copyrighted. James is right when it comes the track just like a painting you can't put it on a copy machine and reproduce it and sell it or distribute it. When you transfer a piece of artwork, as an original track is considered, from one hard drive to the next it is an electronic reproduction. Only the owner or "creator" can do that or give permission. I know it's settled but I was bored and thought I'd add a little.

 

[David O'Reilly]

Sao Paulo rocks

sorry I mean
Autódromo José Carlos Pace, also known by its former name Interlagos Situated in Sao Paulo.

 

[P*Funk]

Race track naming is so annoying sometimes. My current favourite is Canadian Tire Motorsport Park.

Yea... like anybody is gonna call it anything other than Mosport outside of the official broadcast.

But as for Interlagos, can't wait to try this. Its brilliant in GSCE.

 

[still_bacon]

Hey all.

Anyone can build a track from photos, maps etc and call it their own, but in getting the elevations etc correct you need to guess a lot, go by feel, or obtain accurate survey data from the owners of the land.

Using Bathurst as an example in Australia.. To get the council's high accuracy survey data (40cm elevation changes for instance), the council charge an exorbitant amount of money as their staff had to spend days and days standing in the sun getting it right.

Also if you need/wish to survey the land yourself (to get the tracks to the current evolution standard), you need permission from track owners to laser scan their tracks (and if you do not have the equipment, it can cost thousands to hire). For Bathurst, I would also expect a permit to be needed to survey a public road. Not to mention building a representation for commercial use (rF2 ISI tracks), you couldn't use all the sponsors on track unless you obtained permissions.

Look at ISI's non-licenced representations, and check out the sponsors names and styles (Parabolic looks a lot like Panasonic, Trackmaster like Bridgestone etc). I would be more expecting that these sponsorship reasons also came into play for the naming.

 

[jimortality]

Just tried this and it doesn't look as good as the game stock car one yet Reiza had some input so confused a little.