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Round #7, Germany: Post-Race Checks

Discussion in 'Formula SimRacing' started by Carlos Martín, Aug 27, 2014.

  1. Carlos Martín

    Carlos Martín

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    Adrian Falcon (3.50)

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Alessio Campus (3.70)

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Ben Eastman (0.00)

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: 1.5 SR for Incident #4. SR < 0 -> License Revoked. Back of The Grid penalty for Next GP.

    Christof Schgör (5.00)

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Cordell Cahill (1.25)

    Q1: BoG (The driver wasn't allowed to lap in Q1)
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: Back of The Grid Penalty for Lapping in Q1 when the Driver wasn't allowed to. 1.25 SR for Incident #7.

    Daniel Brewer (2.00)

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Cut
    Log: Not Recieved
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: Back of The Grid Penalty for Cutting in Q2, Disqualification for No Log, 1.0 SR for Incident #1.

    Dewald Nel (5.00)

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Dmitry Zaharov (0.00)

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Not Recieved
    Launch COntrol: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: 2.0 SR for Incident #2. SR < 0 -> License Revoked. Back of The Grid for Next Grand Prix. Disqualification for No Log.

    Eugene van Lobbenberg (1.90)

    Q1: Cut
    Q2: Clean
    Log: (Don't restart rf2 during fsr manager running = warning)
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: Back of the Grid Penalty for Cutting in Q1 Session, 1.1 SR for Incident #5. Official Warning for Log Infraction (1st Time).

    Eduard Kore (5.00)

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Georg Winter (4.00)

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: .tmp log (accepted, PC crashed and DNF)
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Guglielmo Matti (5.00)

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    James Sadler (4.00)

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Jonathan Holmes (5.00)

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Lionel Klue (3.00)

    Q1: Major Cut http://i.gyazo.com/9cfa2ec4601335ad43ff7b0f4ab3bc88.png http://i.gyazo.com/fea15adf470cb26592325c6525f61a6b.mp4 http://gyazo.com/fea15adf470cb26592325c6525f61a6b
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: Race Ban for Major Cut in Q1 Session.

    Mihajlo Vicentijevic (4.50)

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Mike Partington (5.00)

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Mikko Suokas (5.00)

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Rando Tamm (5.00)

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Renan Lopes (3.50)

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Rens Klop (5.00)

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Sander Kallas (3.50)

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Sebastiano Filosa (1.00)

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Teemu Valkeejarvi (4.00)

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Tuomas Koriala (0.90)

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Not Recieved
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: Disqualification for No Log, 1.1 SR for Incident #6. Back of The Grid Penalty for SR < 1.0.

    Victor Ivanov (5.00)

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Incident #1

    Driver(s) Involved: Georg Winter, Daniel Brewer.
    Lap Replay: Lap 21, 1:07
    Protest Description: Daniel returns to track and collides with Georg Winter.
    Veredict: 1.0 SR for Daniel Brewer.

    Incident #2

    Driver(s) Involved: Dmitry Zaharov, Renan Lopes
    Lap Replay: Lap 32, 0:25
    Protest Description: Dmitry Zaharov reduces his speed (down to 100 kph in a 300 kph zone) without consedering that there is a car behind him. Renan is forced to pit.
    Veredict: 2.0 SR for Dmitry Zaharov.

    Incident #3

    Driver(s) Involved: James Sadler, Eugene van Loggerenberg
    Lap replay: Lap 9, 0:04
    Protest Description: Sadler spins in T1, Eugene gets out of the track and crashes into Sadler who is stopped (eugene tries to avoid James but wasn't posible for him)
    Veredict: Race Incident.

    Incident #4

    Driver(s) Involved: Adrián Falcón, Ben Eastman
    Lap Replay: Lap 22, 1:22
    Protest Description: Ben Eastman spins and keeps his car on the track with very little space for the other drivers to avoid him. Falcón crashes him and he is forced to pit.
    Veredict: 1.5 SR for Ben Eastman.

    Incident #5

    Driver(s) Involved: Ben Eastman, Eugene Van Loggerenberg.
    Lap replay: Lap 1, 1:07.
    Protest Description: Eugene dives into Ben who spins and loses 8 seconds.
    Veredict: 0'5+T*0.075 (T=8)= 1,1 SR for Eugene Van Loggerenberg.

    Incident #6

    Driver(s) Involved: Tuomas Koriala, James Sadler.
    Lap Replay: Lap 5, 0:32
    Protest description: Koriala dives into Sadler, making him spin and losing 1 position (T=8s).
    Veredict: 0'5+T*0.075 (T=8)= 1,1 SR for Tuomas Koriala.

    Incident #7

    Driver(s) Involved: Cordell Cahill, Ben Eastman, Guglielmo Matti
    Lap Replay: Lap 1, 0:42.
    Protest Description: Cordell Cahill dives and collides with Ben Eastman who was already in the corner (time Lost = 10s).
    Veredict: 0'5+*0.075 (T=10)= 1.25 SR for Cordell Cahill.
     
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  2. Ryan Winsper

    Ryan Winsper
    Origin Front Row Racing - Team Manager

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    How much time was actually gained in Klue going wide?
     
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  3. Dmitry Zaharov

    Dmitry Zaharov

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    Carlos, seriously are you drunk? I was letting 2 cars to lap me moving comletely off the line. You have to be really blind to crash into me in that situation. And by the way:
     
  4. Carlos Martín

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    https://www.dropbox.com/s/a3l71twuq3kgbgw/pro7_logs.txt?dl=0

    Next time dont stop at the main straight down to 100 kph.
     
  5. Dmitry Zaharov

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  6. Carlos Martín

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    If the console sent a warning to you its because you should have let him pass before. Anyway that movement you did makes no sense. The driver behind you was also let him pass.
     
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  7. Dmitry Zaharov

    Dmitry Zaharov

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    No, you make no sense. I'm just shocked.
     
  8. Ho3n3r

    Ho3n3r

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    This is a bit harsh for his first quali. I think a back of grid and official warning would have sufficed.

    I have raced with Lionel for many races already, and he certainly won't do it again. Also, paying for a licsense and then getting 1/6 of that removed because of this is not fair at all.

    Also the fact that he has practiced for the next race for 9 days now, only to be notified now... Really.
     
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  9. Victor Ivanov

    Victor Ivanov

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    If you get a message you're too late already. Once you get blue flags you get 3 corners until the message appears.
     
  10. Carlos Martín

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    I know its harsh but its clear as crystal.

    He perfectly knew he cutted and he kept doing his lap. Itsn't like it was for 1-2 cm.

    If you knew you cutted abort the lap or simply do like Victor, be honest, say you cutted and start on the back. I'm sorry for it but rules are rules, rules are blind if you are racing for first time or if its your last GP.
     
  11. Ho3n3r

    Ho3n3r

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    It's still harsh man.
     
  12. Dmitry Zaharov

    Dmitry Zaharov

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  13. James Sadler

    James Sadler
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    Dimitri, why are you complaining to Carlos? He doesn't do the logs, go ask John.
     
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  14. Ben Eastman

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    You want extra money from me+a BOG...........didn't realize spinning out of control constituted "keeping the car on track"...no favoratism at all there :(
     
  15. Dmitry Zaharov

    Dmitry Zaharov

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    It's not my job to do these kind of things.
     
  16. David Dominguez

    David Dominguez

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    Me neither.
     
  17. Dmitry Zaharov

    Dmitry Zaharov

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    Also, from what I learned in the screenshot above:
    Cahill either sent log from Silverstone or had set wrong race number
    Lopes and Valkeejarvi had wrong race number set
    I don't see warnings here. Maybe I should "do logs" instead?
     
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  18. Dian Kostadinov

    Dian Kostadinov

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    If Carlos makes a conclusion and to not follow the rules, can you imagine what will happen if next races someone do the same. Then will pretend to be penalized same as this case.
     
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  19. Carlos Martín

    Carlos Martín

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    I'm not the one who works on the logs, I just add the penalties from the log results. I don't have any right to manage them, that responsability goes to the deeper admins.
     
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  20. Ho3n3r

    Ho3n3r

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    But a major cut is still misinterpreted in this case. Yes, he ran wide, but what did he gain? Maybe 0.05 seconds. That's major? Really? So if you run wide at La Source, and you certainly gain nothing, but you were 2 metres off track, you will get disqualified?

    I think the interpretation of the rule is incorrect, and needs to be looked at.

    Look at what Kris did in ACE. He corrected his mistakes and incorrect verdicts, because that's what you do if you make a mistake.

    You seriously don't think that's a major cut? I know you're an experienced racer, so you cannot think this.