[ROUND 3 DAYTONA] FOR vs RPM

[Xosé Estrada]

Disadvantaged car: Mike Simian
Team: FOR

Reported car: Marcin Skrzypczak
Reported Team: RPM


Description:

Mike makes the pass into the chicane, Marcin hits Mike causing a spin into the wall and Mike looses his rear wing.

 

[Lucas Degen]

Well from this angle it not real easy to tell. At 0:02 Mike stopped braking. While braking a second later again to try not to cut the chicane. Marcin was on a better, faster line.
Yes he pushed him, but at 0:03 the angle of Mike's car looks like he braked harder to try to not loose his car at the chicane.

When looking from Marcin's car, you can clearly see Mike braking before the before chicane again at 0:16 with his nose to the left.

If Mike had his noise to the right, into the next corner, the tough would be negligible and in a 0 degree angle. In this situation they tough with a 10/15 degree angle, causing Mike to spin of to the left.

 

[Mike Simian]

Different angle if it helps

 

[Mikko Korkiakoski]

Well from this angle it not real easy to tell. At 0:02 Mike stopped braking. While braking a second later again to try not to cut the chicane. Marcin was on a better, faster line.
Yes he pushed him, but at 0:03 the angle of Mike's car looks like he braked harder to try to not loose his car at the chicane.

When looking from Marcin's car, you can clearly see Mike braking before the before chicane again at 0:16 with his nose to the left.

If Mike had his noise to the right, into the next corner, the tough would be negligible and in a 0 degree angle. In this situation they tough with a 10/15 degree angle, causing Mike to spin of to the left.

I guess we need to establish again that these incident threads aren't a place for the involved teams to defend their own drivers. The vid clearly shows what happened and therefore is sufficient for everybody to decide on their own how to vote. Also it's been previously discussed that it is not only about if the incident was intentional or not but also how much the other car suffered because of that.

 

[Lucas Degen]

True, you are right. On the other hand, I would like to see people look at an incident more clear instead of voting within a minute.

 

[David Garcia]

Do not argue here as Mikko points, just vote please.

 

[Ross Balfour]

Sorry, I have just explained this Lucas - he didn't know the rules

 

[Ivo Simons]

Looks like Mikko last some speed on the turn entry wich caused the collision. Still Marcin needs to adapt on it.

 

[Ross Balfour]

-2 frpm RPM; we have discussed this and we admit that Marcin should have been wary of Mike's sudden loss of speed; but the contact made between the two is very minimal - it's just very close racing that sadly results in Mike's rearwing being hit off when it hits the tyrewall.

 

[Mikko Korkiakoski]

Looks like Mikko last some speed on the turn entry wich caused the collision. Still Marcin needs to adapt on it.

Oh no...it's not me. That's mr. Mike Simian driving there.

 

[Flavio Borgna]

-2 from COR even if Mike brakes in the middle of the turn

 

[Robin Johansson]

-4 from GBK for destroying the race

 

[Tom Ilsbroux]

-4 for the same reason as Robin.

In the past we always looked the effect and in this case Mike race was ruined.

 

[Eckhart von Glan]

very evenly split on this one on our forum so I'll head for middle ground. It's not a major touch but with the car as unstable as it is in that situation, it can lead to serious consequences. -4p

 

[ufunacaoenn]

This hit would have happened even if Mike wouldn't brake before the sec corner as he would have gone over the kerb and got a hard hit from behind. Anyways it is close racing as it was already mentioned so WBR will vote for -4p.

 

[Hugo Hekkenberg]

FDR team says: we have to give each other a little space to race. -2 for RPM