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Round #10& #11: Post-Race Checks

Discussion in 'Formula SimRacing' started by Carlos Martín, Oct 16, 2014.

  1. Carlos Martín

    Carlos Martín

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    Adrian Falcon

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: used
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: N/A

    Alessio Campus

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: used
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: N/A

    Cam Stark

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: used
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: N/A

    Carlos Hernandez

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: used
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: N/A

    Christof Schgör

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: used
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: N/A

    Dewald Nel

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: used
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: N/A

    Dmitry Zaharov

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: used
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: N/A

    Eduard Kore

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: used
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: 60 Second Penalty for Incident #2.

    Eugene van Loggerenberg

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: used
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: N/A

    Georg Winter

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: used
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: 1.25 SR for Incident #3

    James Sadler

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: used
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: N/A

    Jeroen Kweekel

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: used
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: 30 Second Penalty for Incident #1.

    Kuba Brzezinski

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: used
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: N/A

    Lionel Klue

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: used
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: N/A

    Mihajlo Vicentijevic

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: used
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: N/A

    Mike Partington

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: used
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: N/A

    Mikko Suokas

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: used
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: N/A

    Rens Klop

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: used
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: N/A

    sebastiano filosa

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Sent log after deadline
    Launch Control: used
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: Disqualified for Log Infraction.

    Teemu Valkeejarvi

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: used
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: 1.0 SR for Incident #4-

    Victor Ivanov

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: used
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: N/A

    Will Barnes

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: "Virtual Rearview In Cockpit":false
    Launch Control: used
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: Official Warning for Log Infraction (2nd Time)

    Yoichi Uehara

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: "Virtual Rearview In Cockpit":false
    Launch Control: used
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: Official Warning for Log Infraction (1st Time)

    Incident #1

    Driver(s) Involved Jeroen Kweekel
    Lap/Replay Time L6 0:55, L14 0:55, L20 0:56, L31 0:58, L33 0:55, L35 0:57
    Protest Description Jeroen Kweekel Cuts.
    Verdict: 30 second Penalty for Jeroen kweekel for Cutting.

    Incident #2

    Driver(s) Involved Eduard Kore
    Lap/Replay Time L1 1:08, L2 0:58, L6 0:59, L7 0:55, L8 0:57, L9 0:58, L23 0:59, L35 0:55,
    Protest Description Eduard Kore Cuts.
    Verdict: 60 second Penalty for Eduard Kore for Cutting.

    Incident #3

    Driver(s) Involved James Sadler - Georg Winter
    Lap/Replay Time 1:10 - Lap 26
    Protest Description: Georg returns to track, keeps his car very slow and Sadler collides with him. Sadler had no option to know if Georg had front Wing or not, so georg should have get out of the way.
    Verdict: 1.25 SR for Georg Winter.

    Incident #4

    Driver(s) Involved James Sadler - Teemu Valkeejarvi
    Lap/Replay Time Lap 16 - 1:15
    Protest Description: Valkeejarvi and Sadler are approaching last hairpin, the ACR brakes later than Sadler and collides with him.
    Verdict: 1.0 SR for Teemu Valkeejarvi.


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    Round #12

    Adrian Falcon (5.00)

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: used
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: N/A

    Alari Algpeus (3.50)

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: used
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: N/A

    Alessio Campus (5.00)

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: used
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: N/A

    Carlos Hernandez (3.00)

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: used
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: N/A

    Christof Schgör (5.00)

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: used
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: N/A

    Daniel Brewer (2.50)

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: used
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: N/A

    Dewald Nel (5.00)

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: used
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: N/A

    Dmitry Zaharov (3.50)

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: used
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: N/A

    Eugene van Loggerenberg (3.20)

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: used
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: N/A

    Georg Winter (2.75)

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Not used
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: Official Warning for Launch Control Infraction.

    James Sadler (4.70)

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: used
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: N/A

    Jeroen Kweekel (5.00)

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: used
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: N/A

    Kuba Brzezinski (5.00)

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: used
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: N/A

    Lionel Klue (4.50)

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: used
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: N/A

    Mihajlo Vicentijevic (5.00)

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: used
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: N/A

    Mike Partington (5.00)

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: used
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: N/A

    Mikko Suokas (5.00)

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: used
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: N/A

    sebastiano filosa (2.00)

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: used
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: N/A

    Teemu Valkeejarvi (4.50)

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: used
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: N/A

    Victor Ivanov (5.00)

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: used
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: N/A

    Will Barnes (3.50)

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: "Virtual Rearview In Cockpit":false
    Launch Control: used
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: 0.5 SR for Log Infraction (3rd time)

    Yoichi Uehara (4.00)

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: "Virtual Rearview In Cockpit":false
    Launch Control: used
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: Official Warning for Log Infraction (2nd time)
     
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  2. Victor Ivanov

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    The cleanest FSR division!
     
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  3. Georg Winter

    Georg Winter

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    Georg Winter (2.75)

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Not used
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: Official Warning for Launch Control Infraction.

    I disagree with this. At my jump start I used the launch control. The rules say nowhere, that I have to use Launch control again, if I stop the car after I already started with Launch control.
    If I`m wrong please show me the rule.
     
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  4. Georg Winter

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    Protest Description: Georg returns to track, keeps his car very slow and Sadler collides with him. Sadler had no option to know if Georg had front Wing or not, so georg should have get out of the way.
    Verdict: 1.25 SR for Georg Winter.

    And to this: Next time I will mount offroad tyres and go all the way back to pit over the grass. Only for you ;)

    And if you look serious at it... I dont return to track. I`m already back on track after the spin. Next time I will stop on the racing line and wait till someone crash into me ;)
     
    Last edited: Oct 16, 2014
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  6. Carlos Martín

    Carlos Martín

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    I remind you that the moments before the lights turn off aren't part of the race distance. So technically you never used the Launch Control during the race.
     
  7. Ho3n3r

    Ho3n3r

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    Technically it is, since his race started a few seconds before the lights went out.

    He even got a penalty IN the race for it. How can one get a penalty for something IN the race if it happened BEFORE the race, but AFTER qualifying?
     
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  8. Carlos Martín

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    Then if he had wheelspin and he crashes into other players everybody would be raging against him for not using the LC.

    Im still amazed how you can even discuss that
     
  9. Ho3n3r

    Ho3n3r

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    Well some people use TC override, which can be considered equally dangerous. I don't see anybody ever being penalised for that.
     
  10. Carlos Martín

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    This is what you should have done:

    youtube.com/watch?v=djZTKFm5Szg&feature=youtu.be
     
  11. Carlos Martín

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    The difference its quite obvious. TC Override is legal an half dangerous.
     
  12. Ho3n3r

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    It's really equally dangerous. And I'm sure if I pull away in 3rd gear, which won't be nearly as dangerous as the aforementioned options, I would be penalised, since I didn't use LC in that case.

    I firmly feel that the LC/TC Override rules need a bit of looking at, and refinement. ;)
     
  13. Carlos Martín

    Carlos Martín

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    People complains why there aren't volunteers for Race Directors...

    Now talk to the hand I don't care anymore.

    Cheers.
     
  14. Georg Winter

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    I remind you at the offense you had against the Race Director in ACE at the Indy Post Race checks...
     
  15. Eugene van Loggerenberg

    Eugene van Loggerenberg

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    WOW....

    and its - anymore
     
  16. Victor Ivanov

    Victor Ivanov

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    Read that again and again and again and again and again and then think if it is worth to fight. Cheers.
    Penalty: Official Warning for Launch Control Infraction.
     
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  17. Georg Winter

    Georg Winter

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    I only made one post about it? Where do you see me "fighting"?
     
  18. Victor Ivanov

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    You started just now.
     
  19. Dmitry Zaharov

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    Engaging LC again in the case of false start takes time, 1.5 sec at least (you have to stop, put neutral, engage LC and push throttle). I think in the end Winter made right decision, because had he delayed that further more this could have become another dreadful start just like in WC and Ace. Props for not spinning out on cold tires.

    By the way, I believe Partington made false start in Indy, so technically he did not used LC after lights went out. I think he received no warning in Post-race checks after that.
     
    Last edited: Oct 16, 2014
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  20. Mike Partington

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    Maybe cause I got a drive through penalty for a jump start. Yeah Georg made a mistake, I know how easy it is to slip on the LC button and I have changed the way I push it because of that mistake. The warning is rather meaningless come last race of season anyway unless he does the same thing again here whch I doubt will happen.