• This Saturday: The Virtual 24 Hours of Le Mans | Live
  1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

[ROUND 1 SPA] FOR vs MAG

Discussion in 'Simracing Team Challenge' started by Xosé Estrada, Sep 18, 2010.

  1. No penalty

    25.0%
  2. +15 sec

    8.3%
  3. +30 sec

    58.3%
  4. +60 sec

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. No points

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. No points / no qualy in next race

    8.3%
  7. No points / DQ for next race

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Xosé Estrada

    Xosé Estrada
    Premium

    Messages:
    4,288
    Ratings:
    +817
    Disadvantaged car: David Clark
    Team: FOC


    Reported car: Michael Braeutigam
    Reported Team: Motor AG


    Description:



    1st lap, David clark is in 2nd position, takes a wide line to give Marcin space. Michael trys to find the gap aswell but misjudges and knocks David Clark of the track. David lost 16 places from 2nd to 18th.
     
  2. David Garcia

    David Garcia

    Messages:
    3,794
    Ratings:
    +122
    Guys, remember as you vote you have to post a little explanation of the reasson why.
     
  3. Flavio Borgna

    Flavio Borgna

    Messages:
    288
    Ratings:
    +1
    COR voted +30 sec because was in L1
    Michael did not finish the race for DNF and this +30 sec are irrilevant, but we have to judge the incident.
     
  4. David Zafiu

    David Zafiu

    Messages:
    1,036
    Ratings:
    +6
    From what i can see in the video,Michael braked for the corner even harder thatn the cars around him,but David just braked to quick and early,it'a hard decision for me to blame on Michael or David,don't know what to say....i can vote?
    I know i was speaking with Michael on skype and he was blaming and feeling so guilt but he keeped saying that the brakes were on full and the car didn't slowed.....to avoid David he would had to push the one in his right side or go on the grass on left....:) it's up to you guys

    As you can see,when David braked,all the cars around him were still having high speed because he braked very early...if the COR car was in David back,then the COR car would had hit him..:)
     
  5. Robin Johansson

    Robin Johansson

    Messages:
    146
    Ratings:
    +1
    gubbklubben vote + 30 for it was on the first lap and in a 90 min race the first lap is not the hole race
     
  6. David Garcia

    David Garcia

    Messages:
    3,794
    Ratings:
    +122
    Well, if you are Team Spokesman or Team Spokesman Assistant you can vote representing your tem. BUT remember, obly one vote for team.
     
  7. Simon Melhuish

    Simon Melhuish

    Messages:
    692
    Ratings:
    +189
    Sorry i was typing it but got distracted and forgot.

    15 sec pen for me as David Clark looks slightly slower heading into the turn, and the car behind misjudges the car speed and taps him.
     
  8. David Zafiu

    David Zafiu

    Messages:
    1,036
    Ratings:
    +6
    +30 seconds as there was the first lap and we should be very careful :)
     
  9. Ross Balfour

    Ross Balfour
    #99 | Roaring Pipes Maniacs

    Messages:
    10,551
    Ratings:
    +197
    Is it 30 seconds for the other MAG car??

    I say no qually next time for one MAG car as a time does little difference to Michael as he DNFed. If the 30 second penalty goes to the other MAG car then I change it to 30seconds :)
     
  10. Michael Hart-Jones

    Michael Hart-Jones

    Messages:
    291
    Ratings:
    +0
    AnE vote, No Penalty.
    Hear me out on this one.

    What David did was admirable, he gave up the position to avod contact, but in doing so braked VERY early for the corner whilst on the racing line. Michael had no time or space to avoid David.
     
  11. Yuri Braham

    Yuri Braham

    Messages:
    1,743
    Ratings:
    +22
    No Points,

    Statement: Michael tryed to go in the inside after the hard braking of David. Yeah its lap 1. But you all know that its first feeling and touching before getting your pace! So Michael coudln't go inside. There was another car braking even more late!. The only thing he could do, was what you see in the video. If Michael turned right then it was even more nasty.

    *Edit very hard one to judge.
     
  12. Eckhart von Glan

    Eckhart von Glan

    Messages:
    4,528
    Ratings:
    +662
    +30 secs, first lap incident, not quite avoidable but also not quite necessary
     
  13. Mike Simian

    Mike Simian

    Messages:
    532
    Ratings:
    +1
    + 30 was an avoidable incident. More care on the first lap in those conditions was required.
     
  14. Ivo Simons

    Ivo Simons

    Messages:
    11,357
    Ratings:
    +953
    Hmm. FOC car brakes to early but Motor AG still needs to be aware of that.
    Wanna go with +15 but go for +30 because i always judge first lap incidents harder.
     
  15. Neil Gault

    Neil Gault

    Messages:
    1,463
    Ratings:
    +341
    was a close vote for us at BVM but most that voted thought +30 secs
     
  16. Grégory Cogotti

    Grégory Cogotti

    Messages:
    3,410
    Ratings:
    +0
    Project D voted no penalty. We think David braked at the bad moment, or maybe to hard. Michael can't avoid him, because David was on the race line and Michael had others opponents on his side.
     
  17. Xosé Estrada

    Xosé Estrada
    Premium

    Messages:
    4,288
    Ratings:
    +817
    Ok, we have 12 votes, so this is the result:

    +30 seconds for MAG car
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.