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RD Formula Pro Series S3 (GTR Evolution)

Discussion in 'rFactor 2' started by Eric. K, Dec 30, 2008.

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  1. All,

    I know we have discussed that in the past, but since the cat is out of the bag I would like to hear more feedback. The format will be a little more official than discussed originally (we will be using all the GPCOS rules and scoring) and it won't start for another couple of months (until we finalize everything). The league will be opened to everyone, but priority will be given first to North American members then PanAmerican drivers finally everyone else. I am not sure which cars to use yet. I would prefer not to drive WTCC nor GT cars. There are a lot of WTCC events and a GT league will just end in Feb. Let's be a little more original. I would love to use cars that are not raced very often (F3000, Caterham, Radicals, WTCC 87, WTCC eXtreme, etc).

    I want to hear from anyone who is interested in participating:
    Driver name:
    Race type: sprint/endurance
    Car preferences (can list several):
    Best day/time #1:
    Alternative day/time #2:
    Alternative day/time #3:
    Should we somehow use weight penalties?:
    Favorite track:
    Remarks/comments:

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    Drivers:

    1. Eric Kaczmarek
    2. Yves Larose
    3. Timothy Miller
    4. Corey Theman
    5. Mitch Philipi
    6. Niklas Vesterinen
    7. Luis Carlos
    8. Sean Vohs
    9. Ian Landry
    10. Jan Wikström
    11. Keith Barrick
    12. Gaynall Hudgins
    13. Dave Stephenson
    14. Jean-Michel Rucheton
    15. Rhys Gardiner
    16. Marty Pierce
    17. Marcel vd Aa
    18. Leandro Lage
    19. Edenilson Penco
    20. Bob Luneski
    21. Bill Kaiser
    22. Péter Bártfai
    23. Chris Vick
    24. Rafael Barbosa
    25. Matt Alpeter
    26. Aritan Maia
    27. Nico Major
    28. Pascal Malenfant Tremblay
    Cars:
    • F3000: 14x
    • WTCC 87: 9x
    • SR3/4: 11x
    • Caterhams: 12x
    • WTCC Extreme: 4x
    • WTCC/STCC: 7x
    • Camero: 3x
    • Mini: 2x
    • Production class: 2x (Audi R8)
    • FBMW: 3x
    • GTs: 7x
    Tracks:
    • Barcelona GP
    • SPA 2003
    • Mid Ohio Chicane
    • Miller
    • Ledenon
    • Suzuka
    • Brno
    • Interlagos
    • Brandshatch
    • Nurburgring GP
    • Rouen
    • Mosport
    • Kaylami
    • Road One
    • Estoril
    • Valencia Street
    • Donnington
    • Cadwell Park
    • Sepang
    • Imola
    • Monte-Carlo
    • Ledenon
    • Zander
    • Valencia
    • Curitiba
    • Limerock Mountain
    • Hungaroring
    Weight penalties:
    • 14x yes
    • 4x no (moved a no to a yes after some testing and chatting with Niklas)
    • maybe? 3x
    • 2x dont care
     
  2. Driver name: Eric Kaczmarek
    Race type: 60mins endurance
    Car preferences (can list several): F3000 / WTCC Extreme
    Best day/time #1: Anything except Friday or Saturday evening
    Alternative day/time #2:
    Alternative day/time #3:
    Should we somehow use weight penalties?: Yes! Not sure how.
    Favorite track: Barcelona GP
    Remarks/comments:
     
  3. Driver name: Timothy Miller
    Race type: 2x 30 minute endurance

    Car preferences (can list several): F3000, sr3/4, caterham's
    Best day/time #1: anything other than friday eve or sat eve
    Alternative day/time #2:
    Alternative day/time #3:
    Should we somehow use weight penalties?: ABSOLUTELY!
    Favorite track: Spa 2003
    Remarks/comments: None!
     
  4. Yves Larose

    Yves Larose
    Premium Member

    Driver name: Yves Larose
    Race type: Endurance 90 minutes
    Car preferences (can list several): WTCC 87, Mini, Camaro, Audi R8(production class)
    Best day/time #1: Anytime is good for me
    Alternative day/time #2:
    Alternative day/time #3:
    Should we somehow use weight penalties?: No, too much work involve
    Favorite track: too many
    Remarks/comments: side note the F3000 is now use for a league, for those who wants the weight penality you have to remember that there is no way to practice with more wieght to the car and i have tried it in a offline season and its completely change how to set the car.
     
  5. Warren Dawes

    Warren Dawes
    Premium Member

    If you are referring to the current NGP league, they are actually using FBMW, not F3000, and the cars are very different. F3000 is much faster and harder to drive.
     
  6. Yves Larose

    Yves Larose
    Premium Member

    oh my bad though it was the F3000 and honestly i don't have any problem driving an open wheel car since i played the grand prix serie for 10 years so those car are in fact easy for me to drive :laugh2:
     
  7. Yves,
    Assume we find a way for anyone to practice with the added weight would you be interested trying it out? And if that doesn't involve any extra work for you. I think it will make it more fun for everyone (fast and slow guys)!! I know if I were winning every race with little or no competition I would get bored pretty quickly and move on to a different hobby.

    Thank you Warren. I drove the F3000 for the first time last weekend and had a BLAST!! The FMBMW class is much slower. The F3000 feel like F1 cars in rFactor!!
     
  8. Driver name: Corey Theman
    Race type: 60 min
    Car preferences (can list several): f3000 / wtcc 87
    Best day/time #1: any day except fri/sat (preferably end before midnight EST)
    Alternative day/time #2:
    Alternative day/time #3:
    Should we somehow use weight penalties?: no feeling either way
    Favorite track: mid ohio chicane
    Remarks/comments: I like the idea - I would also suggest races every other week, instead of every week
     
  9. Driver name: Mitchell Phillipi
    Race type: sprint/endurance: Sprints during the week, endurance on the weekend
    Car preferences (can list several): F3000, WTCC Extreme, E92 BMW M3 (production/stock), F1 (I've downloaded the McLaren so I know it's out there, but am unsure of others?)
    Best day/time #1: 20:00 Pacific
    Alternative day/time #2: 19:00 Pacific
    Alternative day/time #3: 18:30 Pacific
    Should we somehow use weight penalties?: Absolutely. Let's get the racing closer together vs. what I've seen as F1 style type races where there are huge gaps. It's more challenging to race close together and IMO a blast as well.
    Favorite track: Barcelona, Miller (long), Ledenon, pretty much anything that I've driven to date and that's not many LOL.
    Remarks/comments: Eric I think this is a great idea and I hope it works out for us. Since I've been introduced to the game I've actually had to step away from it because it's getting addicting LOL. You're bringing a great level of excitement and originality as well so keep up the good work :)
     
  10. Driver name: Niklas Vesterinen
    Race type: sprint/endurance 60 min endurance
    Car preferences (can list several): F3000
    Best day/time #1: anytime just not after 21.00 GMT (preferably saturday or sunday)
    Alternative day/time #2: same as above
    Alternative day/time #3: same as above
    Should we somehow use weight penalties?: No, hate them. If there should be anything then there should be grid position penalties if that's possible. That makes for much better racing then weight penalties imo. Or forced drivethroughs
    Favorite track: There's so many :) But just to name one that has not allready been mentioned i say Suzuka.
    Remarks/comments: I love the idea of an F3000 series. There's far to little openwheel leauges/events and it's a shame because they are so much fun to drive and usually offers great racing. Should this series ever get GPCOS status like NGP and GT series i think any type of penlties for the faster driver is wrong. I feel that if this would reach that level of "seriousness" then everyone should be allowed to race properly and may the best man win. As long as we kid around in the clubracing events i wont mind whatever you do to try and even things out.

    Come'on people, vote F3000! :wink:
     
  11. Niklas,

    Thanks for you input!!!!

    Out of all the people that posted so far I thought you would be the most interested in weight penalties to give you a little more competition:laugh2:

     
  12. Driver name: Luis Carlos
    Race type: 60mins endurance GT, 50 mins WTCC
    Car preferences (can list several): GT Club / WTCC/STCC
    Best day/time #1: anytime after 19.00 EST (preferably wednesday or sunday)
    Alternative day/time #2:
    Alternative day/time #3:
    Should we somehow use weight penalties?: Yes! Absolutely.
    Favorite track: Spa, Brno, Brands Hatch, Interlagos, Mid-Ohio
    Remarks/comments: 50 minutes WTCC Races instead of 2 short races.
     
  13. Driver name: Sean Vohs
    Race type: sprint/endurance: Doesn't matter to me. Either works
    Car preferences (can list several): WTCC 87, F3000 could be interesting, Caterham could be interesting.
    Best day/time #1: Sundays around noon-3pm MST work best.
    Should we somehow use weight penalties?: I'd prefer to have them just to even the playing field, but I don't want to take away from other people's fun by punishing them for being good.
    Favorite track: I can't think of any. Spa is fun, Brno, Nurburgring GP
     
  14. Driver name: Ian Landry
    Race type: endurance
    Car preferences (can list several): FBMW, WTCC, Radicals
    Best day/time #1: tuesday after 8pm eastern
    Alternative day/time #2: sunday after 8 pm eastern
    Alternative day/time #3:
    Should we somehow use weight penalties?: Yes
    Favorite track: The tracks that ship with the game
    Remarks/comments:
    Just to clarify my choices above:
    Cars: I'll race any chosen, but I personally think that really fast cars (like the F3000) would most likely spread the field even more so than now.
    Tracks: Being new to simracing, I hardly know any tracks, and the ones that are standard with the game I know just slightly more than the others.

    Looking forward to this league!

    Ian
     
  15. I like the discussion. Yves, MItch and Niklas, let's open a different thread on this subject. Maybe we could come up with a solution to make things funner for everyone :)
     
  16. Driver name: Jan Wikström
    Race type: 60min races
    Car preferences (can list several): F3000, Radicals, Caterham (in that order)
    Best day/time #1: Sunday not later start than 2100 GMT
    Alternative day/time #2: Weekdays, not later start than 2000 GMT
    Alternative day/time #3: --
    Should we somehow use weight penalties?: Maybe ? Provided it’s only provides a minor drawback (fast drivers should not be ripped of all there advantage)
    Favorite track: Challenging circuits like Spa, Brno, Kaylami, Rouen, Mosport etc
    Remarks/comments: Super pole is challenge and is fun and is preferred.
    Rolling starts reduces a lot of first lap incidents and provides better racing overall.
     
  17. Driver name: Keith Barrick
    Race type: Sprint for some and Endurance for others.
    Car preferences (can list several): Radicals, WTCC 87, WTCC Extreme
    Best day/time #1: Im a very flexible. When the idea becomes closer to reality I am sure a few options will be layed out and I will voice then.
    Should we somehow use weight penalties?: I am torn with this. I do feel it will keep the field even when there is a consistently faster driver. However, it would be difficult to manage. IE: Said faster driver is slower at race #5 on the schedule just because he cant managed to find his groove. Now not only is he penalized for his driving, but also for his previous results. This is a tough one.
    Favorite track: Road One, Estoril, Brands Hatch, Valencia Street
    Remarks/comments: I love this idea and have been hoping for it for a while. I am willing to assist in anyway.

    Keep up the good work guys, you are all hard dedicated racing fans.

    Keith Barrick
     
  18. Driver name: Gaynall Hudgins
    Race type: sprint & endurance
    Car preferences (can list several): WTCC 87, Camaro, Caterham (anything really)
    Best day/time #1: Mon - Thurs, the later the better
    Alternative day/time #2:
    Alternative day/time #3:
    Should we somehow use weight penalties?: Yes
    Favorite track: Like most all of them
    Remarks/comments: Don't know how many others have GTL or rFactor, but great cars in those too
     
  19. Dave Stephenson

    Dave Stephenson
    Technical Administrator Staff Premium Member

    Driver name: Dave Stephenson
    Race type: sprint/endurance Enduro
    Car preferences (can list several): F3000, Cats, 87s (no particular order)
    Best day/time #1: any day, earlier the better but sort out the us guys over me on that front
    Should we somehow use weight penalties?: if we can work out a system then yes.
    Favorite track: Donnington, Cadwell Park, Laguna, Interlagos.
    Remarks/comments: would be interested but you should sort out the us guys and make sure they get what they want first. ;)
     
  20. Driver name: Jean-Michel Rucheton
    Race type: endurance
    Car preferences (can list several): F3000
    Best day/time #1: Not after 21:00 GMT, saturday or sunday
    Alternative day/time #2:
    Alternative day/time #3:
    Should we somehow use weight penalties?: There's been quite a bit of discussion about that already, it's up to the fast guys to see what would be a good idea to make it more challenging for them depending on the race format and the car chosen.
    Favorite track: Monte-Carlo, Barcelona, Spa, Imola, Sepang
    Remarks/comments:
     
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