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Race #12, Japan: Post-Race Checks

Discussion in 'Formula SimRacing' started by John-Eric Saxén, Oct 4, 2012.

  1. Here are the results from round 12. Few things here I'd like to mention. Firstly, as much as I do like my hobby to judge incident protests, it's a bit counter-intuitive for me to spend several hours on incidents that are virtually nothing, so I hope a certain team can improve in this aspect. Secondly, this race witnessed some late blocking moves such as in incidents #5, #7 and #8. These will be judged harder in the future, so let this be a warning in that regard.


    Alban Deslie

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: N/A

    Cyril Werdmuller

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: N/A

    Dimitri De Matos

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: N/A

    Eros Masciulli

    Q1: N/A
    Q2: N/A
    Log: N/A
    Launch Control: Clean
    Pitstops: N/A
    Penalty: 0.5 penalty points for incident #5.

    Fred Gosling

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: N/A

    Ivan Hincu

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstops: Cut, lap 12
    Penalty: 0.5 penalty points for pit exit cut

    Ivar Kalamees

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: N/A

    Jack Keithley

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: 1.0 penalty points and +10 seconds race time penalty for incident #8.

    Jernej Simoncic

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Clean
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: N/A

    Luka Oslakovic

    Q1: N/A
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Clean
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: N/A

    Martial Thomas

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Clean
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: Clean

    Martin Gosbee

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Clean
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: N/A

    Matteo Vecchioni

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Clean
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: N/A

    Maurice Brackhahn

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Clean
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: N/A

    Muhammed Patel

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: N/A

    Philipp Puschke

    Q1: N/A
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Clean
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: 1.0 penalty points and +20 seconds race time penalty for incident #7.

    Rob van Starkenburg

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Clean
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: N/A

    Stephane Rouault

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Clean
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: N/A

    Tommy Nilsson

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Clean
    Pitstops: Clean
    Penalty: 0.5 penalty points for incident #6.

    William Woodcock

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Clean
    Pitstops: Cut, laps 30, 47
    Penalty: 0.5 penalty points for pit exit cuts


    Protests


    #1 Dimitri De Matos - Matteo Vecchioni - Lap 1 T1

    Protest: de matos after the start choses a line for the first corner, vecchioni is comming fast then dematos forces vecchioni to push the brake so he wont go of track he blocks vecchioni and leaves him no space and nothing other than push the brake.

    Review: Is this a joke?


    #2 Cyril Werdmuller - Matteo Vecchioni - Lap 3 final corner

    Protest: 1) werdmuller try overtake vecchioni at the chicane he brake to late and push vecchioni very wide in chicane.
    2) werdmuller in the left going out of the chicane cuts of vecchioni totally its pure luck that its not vecchioni who spins. Vecchioni had no where to go on exit

    Review: 1) Werdmuller is behind Vecchioni but decides to attempt an overtake and pulls alongside during the braking. There was enough time for Vecchioni to acknowledge Werdmuller. Slight wheel-banging occurs on the entry, mainly because Vecchioni fails to give enough space.
    2) On the second part of the chicane, Werdmuller does not give enough room for Vecchioni, resulting in contact and spin for Werdmuller.

    Verdict: Nothing, since only Werdmuller lost positions and no obvious damage was caused to Vecchioni. Otherwise, Werdmuller would have got a penalty for 2).


    #3 Philipp Puschke - Matteo Vecchioni - Lap 4 final corner

    Protest: vecchioni overtaking puscke before the chicane. vecchioni braking late and locks up a bit, but still within control limits! Then puscke, easy knowing vecchioni is there turns directly into vecchioni causing him to loose controll and plow straight in the chicane loosing a position If you see this from pusckes cockpit its obvious that this is his intension of turning into vecchioni, cus even after vecchioni is quite far past , puscke continuesly turns hard into vecchioni

    Review: Puschke could have perhaps turned in somewhat later, but overall this incident was 100% caused by Vecchioni. The braking of Vecchioni is way too late for the situation and would have resulted in him going wide regardless of the contact.

    Verdict: Nothing, since there was no obvious damage or time loss for Puschke. Otherwise Vecchioni would have got a penalty.


    #4 Cyril Werdmuller - Matteo Vecchioni - Lap 7 turn 1

    Protest: 1st corner when vecchioni turns into the corner, initially there is enough space for wedmuller
    if he decides to overtake. But then werdmuller comming into the corner way to fast makes contact with vecchioni and instantly and because of this contact the angle of vecchionis car changes this meens vecchioni slides of cus an overoptimistic move from werdmuller who wins a position on this

    Review: Vecchioni and Werdmuller approach turn 1 alongside, with Werdmuller on the inside. At the first apex both cars touch, resulting in a spin for Vecchioni. At the point of touch, Werdmuller's car is completely on the inside, with no more room on either side. Hence I don't see anything wrong here. Considering the circumstances and the tight turn 1, if anything, Vecchioni is the one who should have given more space and committed for a later entry, as he had the room to do so.

    Verdict: Nothing


    #5 Stephane Rouault - Eros Masciulli Lap 7 turn 11

    Protest (2): rouaul try to go on masciulli side before the hairpir When he is in the middle of this movement, he continue to turn right against masciulli. Yes masciulli is going for inside to the corner, BUT even if he stay in right side rouault still turns against him and contact will happen! rouault should have stayd more left. This caused quite an extensive to masciulli and the precision car in front as well.

    Review: Rouault approaches turn 11 with his nose alongside Masciulli at the braking point. After the braking has started, Masciulli makes a small but surprising move towards the inside, resulting in contact with him and Rouault, and later contact with Gosling ahead. I judge this as blocking with another car alongside, prohibited by article 6.2 c). Rouault had very little time to react at such a sudden move in the braking zone. The penalty of Masciulli is mitigated due to the circumstances and the end result, which was already negative for Masciulli

    Verdict: 0.5 penalty points to Eros Masciulli


    #6 Tommy Nilsson - Eros Masciulli Lap 13 turn 11

    Protest: Nilsson misjudges his braking and plows right into eros car and hit him hard, making him slide offline

    Review: Nilsson attempts a late out-braking move into the chicane and runs wide, resulting in contact with Masciulli. Nilsson "gives" the position back on the following straight.

    Verdict: 0.5 penalty points to Tommy Nilsson.


    #7 Philipp Puschke - Jack Keithley Lap 29 turn 16

    Protest: Puschke moves over under braking to cover inside, with Keithley alongside him, with clear intention not allow Keithley pass under no circumstances. Puschke therefore cuts Keithley off, they make contact, Puschke slides off the track, cuts the track and keeps his position.

    Review: Keithley is behind Puschke but pulls alongside on the inside as the braking zone starts. Half-way into the braking, Puschke makes a sudden blocking move towards the inside, resulting in contact between both cars, in violation with article 6.2 c). Puschke continues to run wide as a result of the contact and hence cuts the chicane, but does not give the position back to Keithley. The move was a clear misjudgement by Puschke and at the very least he should have given his position back after running wide and gaining time.

    Verdict: 1.0 penalty points and +20 seconds time penalty to Philipp Puschke.


    #8 Jack Keithley - Philipp Puschke Lap 34 turn 11

    Protest (2): Keithley turns left into Puschke when Puschke had his front tyres alongside Keithley's rear tyres. Keithley hits Puschke that's sent out of track and without any chance to avoid Kalamees in front, ultimatelly loosing his front wing.

    Review: Keithley does a mistake into Degner 2 and as a consequence Puschke is able to pull his nose alongside at the entry into turn 11. Just before the braking, Keithley deviates from the normal racing line and continues straight across the braking zone. This results in contact between Puschke and him and further contact with Kalamees ahead. As the previous move, this move is in violation with article 6.2 c). There was no room and time for Puschke to react. Furthermore, the end result was beneficial for Keithley, as it resulted in heavy damage for both Puschke and Kalamees ahead.

    Verdict: 1.0 penalty points and +10 seconds time penalty to Jack Keithley.


    #9 Philipp Puschke - Eros Masciulli Lap 43 turn 15

    Protest: Puschke try to overtake masciulli before the chicane, and is partially by his side. When they go into the fast left kink before chicake all is good. But Pusche makes a to ambitious overtaking attempts and end up pushing masciulli into a slide, and take the position. Initially it seems masciulli turns into corner agressively, but obviously this is cus of the contact. Puschke is way to agressive here.

    Review: Puschke and Masciulli approach the fast 130R corner side by side. Just before the apex point, contact takes place, resulting in a half-spin for Masciulli. Puschke could have chosen his turn-in point fractionally earlier. However, at the apex point, Puschke's car is completely on the inside. Overall I see this as a racing incident, due to the narrow nature of the corner.

    Verdict: Nothing
     

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    PS: Succesful protests: 1/7. And one of them turned out against them.

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