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Race #07, Germany: Post-Race Checks

Discussion in 'Formula SimRacing' started by Eduard Mallorquí, Aug 19, 2014.

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  1. Eduard Mallorquí

    Eduard Mallorquí

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    Check your actual status of warnings and safety rating of the season HERE.

    Morgan Morand (5.00) +0.50

    Q1: Cut
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: Back of the Grid in the next race for Q1 lap infraction

    Bono Huis (5.00) +0.00

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Jiri Toman (5.00) +0.00

    Q1: Cut
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: Back of the Grid in the next race for Q1 lap infraction

    Rob van Starkenburg (5.00) +0.00

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: +30 seconds added to the final race time for Incident #10

    Petar Brljak (4.50) +0.00

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: +60 seconds added to the final race time for Incident #7

    Jack Keithley (3.55) +0.50

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    David Greco (5.00) +0.00

    Q1: N/A
    Q2: N/A
    Log: "Downstream Rated KBPS":52000, "Upstream Rated KBPS":3096
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: Official Warning for .PLR/multiplayer.ini settings

    Jernej Simoncic (3.00) +0.00

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Cut
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: Back of the Grid in the next race for Q2 lap infraction, +60 seconds added to the final race time for Incident #6

    Dian Kostadinov (5.00) +0.00

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: +30 seconds added to the final race time for Incident #11

    Mike Partington (5.00) +0.00

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: +30 seconds added to the final race time for Incident #9

    John-Eric Saxen (3.65) +0.50

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Marcel vd Linden (5.00) +0.00

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Blair Disley (5.00) +0.00

    Q1: N/A
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Dino Paolini (1.75) +0.50

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Zuhaitz Cabo (4.45) +0.50

    Q1: Cut
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: Back of the Grid in the next race for Q1 lap infraction

    Matt Sentell (5.00) +0.50

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Carlos Martín (4.75) +0.50

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Luka Oslakovic (5.00) +0.00

    Q1: Cut, Cut
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: Back of the Grid in the next race for Q1 lap infraction

    Jonny Simon (5.00) +0.00

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: Official Warning for Incident #3

    Patrick De Wit (1.50) +0.50

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Robert Rudholm (5.00) +0.50

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A

    Daniel Brewer (3.00) +0.00

    Q1: N/A
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Not received
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: Disqualification for File Submission infraction

    Jim Parisis (4.10) -0.90

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: 0.90 Penalty Points for Incident #1

    Eros Masciulli (4.50) +0.00

    Q1: Cut
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Not received
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: Back of the Grid in the next race for Q1 lap infraction, Disqualification for File Submission infraction

    Antonio Kolarec (4.00) +0.50

    Q1: Cut, Cut
    Q2: N/A
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: Back of the Grid in the next race for Q1 lap infraction

    Martin Gosbee (5.00) +0.00

    Q1: Clean
    Q2: Clean
    Log: Clean
    Launch Control: Used
    Pitstop: Clean
    Tire Rules: Fulfilled
    Penalty: N/A


    Incident #1
    Incident #2
    Incident #3
    Incident #4
    Incident #5
    Incident #6
    Incident #7
    Incident #8
    Incident #9
    Incident #10
    Incident #11
     
  2. Morgan Morand

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    oups i didn't know the authorized kerb at T1 was only the painted one... :( I thought all the kerb was authorized
    shame, that RR tyre is outside the "authorized kerb" 3 tyres out of 4

     
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  3. Dian Kostadinov

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    How this is not a penalty?! You revoked Patrick's license for loosing control and the car behind hitted him and this is not penalized? Your desicion are getting more and more weird. Am I the only one here in this forum who have the courage to say this directly?
     
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  4. Alvaro Torres

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    Good job Edu, but Im not sure at all about Morgan's penalty seeing his video. Anyway, I'll prepare popcorns for next WC race.
     
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  5. Eduard Mallorquí

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    Incident #8 from Bahrain
    youtube.com/watch?v=RubBMAGMHRs

    Was this a penalty?
     
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  6. Martin Hodás

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    Bono was way behind and had at least chance to move out of the way... Linden was just kicked off the track without any chance to do something
     
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  7. Dian Kostadinov

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    I was talking for Keithley - De Wit where they retired. All world blamed Patrick for this because he overdrove his tires, what about accelerating on the curb + painting zone and take out the car next to you. This I think is more harsh than that one in Bahrain.
     
  8. Thomas Mundy

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    Fair point but there is a slight difference. Patrick was off the racing line and therefore on a part of track where there is less grip. He was also ahead of Bono. Jernej is behind Marcel and also he is on the racing line where the grip is. So there are subtle differences.
     
  9. Dian Kostadinov

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    It doesn't matter where the grip is, the track is same for everyone, when you take out someone behind or next to you, I think you deserve a penalty, but not when you do mistake and the guy behind crash you.
     
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  10. Eduard Mallorquí

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    At incident #12 of Bahrain Keithley was also kicked off the track without any chance to do something, nevertheless COA removed the penalty.
     
  11. Martin Hodás

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    With Patrick it was very specific situation with his overdroven tires etc... And still, he wasnt behind Jack - so why are you still comparing different situations?
     
  12. Eduard Mallorquí

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    Because someone is pointing out this situations, but you are right, they are not quite the same.
     
  13. Jack Keithley

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    Yes the COA removed the penalty so whats the point of giving someone a penalty for the same kind of incident when they have already made a ruling on what will happen.
     
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  14. Marcel van der Linden

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    Maybe we could stop racing after the warm up lap. It's much saver and no protest what results in strange (speaking in calm) outcome of the protest. I really can follow anything more with the results of the protests. Even my son of 8 years old understands that I was taken out.
    Really unbelievable. I left him enough room.
     
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  15. patrick de wit

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    its nice too see no matter how hard i try(to do clean races) my name keeps coming up on this forum:(
     
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  16. Dian Kostadinov

    Dian Kostadinov

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    I didn't mantion it to campare both situations. My idea was, you penalize a guy (1 license point) who does mistake like half-spinning and you said it's his fault, because the driver behind couldn't avoid it, but here when Jernej halfspins and taken out Marcel again unavoidable, no penalty.
     
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  17. Jernej Simončič

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    What was I supposed to do there? I tried really carefully to go on throttle, I barely opened 50% of throttle when the rear suddenly snapped. I did my best to correct the slide, I lifted, I actually corrected it and tried to move more onto the kerb, but it was too late.
    I couldn't see it coming, and when the moment came, I did my best to avoid any incident. I don't know, why would I deserve a penalty or what could I have done differently.
    Maybe you could give me some setup tips for better traction :)
     
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  18. David Dominguez

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    So let me understand; you are complaining because Simoncic didn't get the same penalty as De Wit in Bahrain, a penalty that you were against and was already removed by COA?

    Am I the only one here in this forum that thinks that some people talks nosense sometimes?
     
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  19. Jack Keithley

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    No and some people are obviously having some memory lapses.

    Ed's been consistent all season so a bit more support eh chaps.
     
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  20. Dian Kostadinov

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    The difference is Patrick was ahead like 1 car distance, ofcourse I was against, for first time I've been heard someone to get a penalty for hit behind. Here in Hockenheim, Jernej was side by side, Marcel left him enough room from outside, but the GS driver wheel-spun his rear tires and slided to Marcel's car. Ofcourse Jernej didn't want to have a contact or to crash Marcel, but drivers' errors make these penalties right? Even Jim's bomb was an error, he could say, give me a better setup to may stop faster.. I'm 100% sure if it was Patrick crashing someone like this.. no point to continue this sentence..
     
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