Questions for Kunos Simulazioni

[Matej Lakota]

I hope, those questions haven`t been answered yet .

1. I have TrackIR, but it is hard to use it on the sunny days, so will you enable look-to-apex option?
2. Can you give us graphic view for gear ratio settings, because it is more transparently that way?
3. Is there some benefit for us, who are using manual cluch and H shifter against others, who also use manual cluch, but steering wheel paddles for changing gears (can game recognize those settings)? With H shifter gearbox I am usualy some percentages slower than with paddles and I am asking this question because online races.

Thank you for answers.

 

[LazyBug]

Yeah like to know too cause i using DFGT, not even has clutch.

 

[William Levesque]

3. Is there some benefit for us, who are using manual cluch and H shifter against others, who also use manual cluch, but steering wheel paddles for changing gears (can game recognize those settings)? With H shifter gearbox I am usualy some percentages slower than with paddles and I am asking this question because online races.

The optimal way is to drive the car like it is in real life, example:

KTM X-Bow: H-Shifter + Clutch will be marginally faster (IF driven right) than using Paddles or a Sequential shifter + Clutch, and even more if assists are used (auto-clutch, auto-blip, etc...)

As soon as you take out a step in "difficulty" that the real car has, you make it in theory slower, but really not by much. A skilled H-Shifting driver will be faster than a skilled Paddling (lol) driver (Again, a couple of tenths max), but an average H-Shifting driver will be slower than the one with paddles.

 

[Matej Lakota]

Thanks mate, that`s all, what I wanted to know (and hoped also) .


... so, back to practice .

 

[Tim Meuris]

The optimal way is to drive the car like it is in real life, example:

KTM X-Bow: H-Shifter + Clutch will be marginally faster (IF driven right) than using Paddles or a Sequential shifter + Clutch, and even more if assists are used (auto-clutch, auto-blip, etc...)

As soon as you take out a step in "difficulty" that the real car has, you make it in theory slower, but really not by much. A skilled H-Shifting driver will be faster than a skilled Paddling (lol) driver (Again, a couple of tenths max), but an average H-Shifting driver will be slower than the one with paddles.

William, with 'skilled' you mean being able to use heel-toe-technique or what?

 

[William Levesque]

William, with 'skilled' you mean being able to use heel-toe-technique or what?

Indeed, not only that, but to be able to do so and have consistent braking pressure during blips, aswell as being able to manage the shifting whilst racing, not get "mixed up" in your movements.

 

[Dany Five]

I have to say I am absolutely blown away by physics and graphics. Amazing piece of sim engineering. And finally...FINALLY something besides LFS where you can actually drift !!!

My first touch with M3

 

[Tim Meuris]

Indeed, not only that, but to be able to do so and have consistent braking pressure during blips, aswell as being able to manage the shifting whilst racing, not get "mixed up" in your movements.

I'm not quite the multitasker...

 

[Tim Meuris]

I have to say I am absolutely blown away by physics and graphics. Amazing piece of sim engineering. And finally...FINALLY something besides LFS where you can actually drift !!!

My first touch with M3

Awesome vid Daniel, this really shows a whole new level of physics imo
even though I'm not one for drifting at all

 

[Matej Lakota]

Heel/toe and H shifter make me no problems, but speed of changing gears with paddles is much faster than "common" way, so that`s why I asked my question.

 

[William Levesque]

Heel/toe and H shifter make me no problems, but speed of changing gears with paddles is much faster than "common" way, so that`s why I asked my question.

In theory it is faster but with cars who are supposed to have a H-Shifter, there is a delay if you use paddles.

 

[Matej Lakota]

Tnx again!

 

[Ryan Vickery]

It isn't only about consistant braking pressure and blips, it takes a lot of more concentration/co-ordination or atleast your body is dealing with a lot more when using H-shifter + clutch, using paddles you always have both hands on the wheel and thus more undivided attention to the road.

In my eyes that is the biggest advantage of paddles, more undivided attention, especially on the entry phase of a corner. However, if you become fluent enough using heel toe clutch + H-shifter and comfortable with your braking points you can mostly negate that. The most skilled of drivers can use the H-shifter without losing time, or atleast enough that they are still faster due to the mechanical ingame advantage of using a clutch + H-shift.

If you took away the mechanical advantage of H-Shift + Clutch (like Gran Turismo did) then paddles will always be faster.

 

[LazyBug]

I dont understand the different between paddles + clutch vs H-Shift + Clutch. I mean what make H-shift + clutch faster than paddles + clutch ?? Because H shift can shift straight from 6th to 1st gear ??

 

[William Levesque]

Oh dear....

 

[John Cunningham]

Tarmac: all I ever asked for was for a Tar sim that felt as good as Richard burns rally... I think they may have nailed it!

 

[Stereo]

It isn't only about consistant braking pressure and blips, it takes a lot of more concentration/co-ordination or atleast your body is dealing with a lot more when using H-shifter + clutch, using paddles you always have both hands on the wheel and thus more undivided attention to the road.

In my eyes that is the biggest advantage of paddles, more undivided attention, especially on the entry phase of a corner. However, if you become fluent enough using heel toe clutch + H-shifter and comfortable with your braking points you can mostly negate that. The most skilled of drivers can use the H-shifter without losing time, or atleast enough that they are still faster due to the mechanical ingame advantage of using a clutch + H-shift.

If you took away the mechanical advantage of H-Shift + Clutch (like Gran Turismo did) then paddles will always be faster.

Hm, I find the sequential shifter more comfortable for some sorts of driving - if you never use more than 180 degrees either way you can keep your hands near the paddles (assuming like my wheel they're attached to the back of the wheel rather than the steering column), if you're doing something like drifting in the video above, you end up using several turns of the wheel regularly (or letting it slide through your hands) and it's easier to find the sequential shifter cause it's always just to the side of the wheel. Don't even really have to let go of the wheel, just flick it with a couple fingers.

Presumably on the cars with DKG the sequential or paddle shifters go as fast as the real car can manage, too... haven't bought AC yet so I don't know how it displays information about the 'ideal' control setup for realism. If you want accuracy you should be switching based on the vehicle you're driving.

 

[LazyBug]

I dont understand the different between paddles + clutch vs H-Shift + Clutch. I mean what make H-shift + clutch faster than paddles + clutch ?? Because H shift can shift straight from 6th to 1st gear ??

Yeah yeah i know i stupid & silly to ask question like this but far as i know after watch more than 20+ Lotus type 49 in monza66 video i found i actually lap faster than all of them using just DFGT.

 

[Damien Wintz]

Presumably on the cars with DKG the sequential or paddle shifters go as fast as the real car can manage, too... haven't bought AC yet so I don't know how it displays information about the 'ideal' control setup for realism. If you want accuracy you should be switching based on the vehicle you're driving.

In AC, it's simple : when you drive a car that has a sequential gearbox, you use shift up and shift down to shift. Production cars with sequential gearboxes like the 458 and the E92 have no clutch pedal so blipping and throttle cut is automatic. On the M3 GT2, you need to blip yourself, and on all the manual cars you need to operate the clutch like you normally would, rev matching on downshifts and cutting the throttle on upshifts.

Everything is good at default so you have maximum realism depending on the car you choose to drive

 

[EIF]

So the real E92 doesn't even have a clutch pedal? Sucks we cant use h-shifter with it.