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[Poll] Car selection for an upcoming sports car league

Discussion in 'rFactor 2' started by Dennis, Jun 28, 2014.

  1. URD EGT + single LMP

    53 vote(s)
    75.7%
  2. Single GT + single LMP (free cars)

    17 vote(s)
    24.3%
  1. Dennis

    Dennis
    RedShift Racing Staff

    Before you vote, please consider:
    • Every LMP driver will need to purchase URD EGT
    • No performance/balance changes by us; EGTs will stay the way they are, as provided by Ales
    Fairly soon RD will hold its first Virtual Sports Car Championchip, in the spirit of TUSCC. It will consist of four 4 - 6 hour long races, and allow for driver swaps.

    For this, we would like to have your input on the car selection. Do you prefer different cars per class, or perfect balance? And are paid cars OK, even if you race in a different class?

    Please note that this league is not intended to be a successor or replacement of the VWEC/RDLMS, and will run as a completely separate entity.

    More details will be released in the near future.
     
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  2. Dennis

    Dennis
    RedShift Racing Staff

    (hope we didn't miss anyone :D)

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  3. Stefan Woudenberg

    Stefan Woudenberg
    Premium Member

    I voted for the full URD mod with LMP.

    This will make the field more "colourfull". :)

    Will we get a vote for which tracks aswell? :)
     
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  4. Richard Hill

    Richard Hill
    outofthisworld

    Thank you for the tag :thumbsup:
    I voted for the URD mod with the LMP for the same reason really as Stefan and I think they are great value for months and easy to drive too.
     
  5. Frederic Schornstein

    Frederic Schornstein
    TXL Racing Premium Member

    I voted for the Single GT as I enjoyed the ISI Corvette races more than the EGT races I did so far. Even the long EGT races felt like sprint races as the tyres have little wear.

    If interest is there it could be run as GT Pro (EGT) and GT Am (ISI GT2).
     
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  6. Voted for URD EGT + single LMP. Urd mod is excellent but sadly its payware so many racers would propably not join this league. :(
    Apex moddings GT3 mod is very good but is has issues as well but at least its free so perhaps it would be worth considering if they manage to improve it.
     
  7. Frederic Schornstein

    Frederic Schornstein
    TXL Racing Premium Member

    Bad mobile connectiin made me double post:(
     
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  8. Frederic Schornstein

    Frederic Schornstein
    TXL Racing Premium Member

    Thats why we have the poll. I think beside the URD mod the only alternative are the ISI cars at the moment. The quality of other GT Mods just is not good enough.

    @Richard Hill the EGT mod is easier at first, but what I have seen so far the field spreads out a lot more.
     
  9. ISI GTs + LMP :thumbsup:
     
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  10. David O'Reilly

    David O'Reilly
    A bad quali means I can go forwards in the race.

    The GT3 mod we are running currently at Bathurst (BES Mod?) is very good.
    On the Apex one the 911 is dire and thats my favourite GT3 so I dont support that one.
     
  11. Frederic Schornstein

    Frederic Schornstein
    TXL Racing Premium Member

    But in my opinion you cant compare the BES Mod to the EGT or ISI content. The physics are way off and could be a bit of a trouble using it in an official leauge.
     
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  12. David O'Reilly

    David O'Reilly
    A bad quali means I can go forwards in the race.

    Ah ok, I have to respect your view as I havent driven the paymod and maybe I'm not good enough to feel the shortcomings of the BES Mod. I just like the 911 a lot and its the best one I driven in RF2. Only driven 3. BES, GTE, Apex.
     
  13. Frederic Schornstein

    Frederic Schornstein
    TXL Racing Premium Member

    I think the physics are a lot better in the EGT cars compared to BED, but still a bit too much grip. The laptimes are a few seconds faster than they should be.
    I think if we have more than 20 or 25 GT sign ups there will be two GT classes anyway.
     
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  14. Magic43

    Magic43
    "Drive it, like you stole it." Premium Member

    I have voted for single cars so not everyone has to buy the URD mod. Btw i've the mod :)
     
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  15. ISI's got a LMP car? :confused: Want!

    My BED has propper physics :p.
    BTW the sec they are faster on a normal lap is not realted to tires or suspension or physics really. It's a drag thing AFAIK.

    David you can try the free Vette they released if just want to compare the cars.
    It should give you a good impression of the cars overall.


    I've voted for the URD cars. Seems like the most people have them and as Stefan said it just is an awesome grid lol. BTW Until September we might also have the URD protos already. 64 bit 17230941092340972491723747 cars on grid :geek:
     
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  16. Frederic Schornstein

    Frederic Schornstein
    TXL Racing Premium Member

    @Miroslav Davidovic Seems to be a mix of both. On some tracks the top speed matches with reallife, but in Silverstone for example you have around 10kph more top speed. At least with the URD Corvette you are pretty limited to a small band of wing levels, that's actually usable, so you end up with a relatively low rear wing for Silverstone. The laptimes around Silverstone are around 1 second faster then in reallife in Sebring it is around 2 seconds, thats why I think you gain a bit more in the low speed stuff and have a bit more top speed.
    Of course there are more parameters involved. Unless we get our hands on proper GT2 telemetry you can't really figure it out exactly :D

    I only hope we get the same good driving standards with the EGT mod that we had in last year VWEC. I think you had the same experience like me last weekend :D As I will most probably drive an LMP1 I only hope the GT's behave well :)
     
  17. If only rF2 would start on my PC ><
     
  18. Ricardo Edelmann

    Ricardo Edelmann
    Lights out, Spot on! Premium Member

    i voted for the URD + LMP.

    Even if i don't like the URD mod as much as the BES Mod. I just chosed it because i think a league with only 2 cars is awfully boring...

    I'd rather like to see BES Mod in a league then the URD Mod. but i would give it a go anyway with or without them.
     
  19. Frederic Schornstein

    Frederic Schornstein
    TXL Racing Premium Member

    I dont think the second option is intended to be the BES Mod, but the ISI Corvette we used in VWEC 2013, which provided good close racing and was the class with the most cars.
     
  20. A good point as you said some Posts ago Frederic is the tyre wear of the Corvette, there you really can make a difference and if you compare this to the URD / BES Stuff its kinda a joke. The tyre wear is not really effected by the driving style - at least if you don't lock up all the time.

    I would personally like to see only one class in the GTs, maybe its a bit boring in terms of variation but so everyone has the same stuff to work with and we have guaranteed close racing which we don't have if we take so many cars in as theyre not balanced at all.

    I don't really know if its the best idea to mix it with LMPs. It is fun for sure if you have the lap traffic to manage but to make this really fun for everyone you also need a huge driver field and tracks where it works - both is not as easy as it looks in my opinion ;)

    @April Dillon / @Hany Alsabti missed in the topic? :p
     
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