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Nordschleife - laserscanned?

Discussion in 'Assetto Corsa' started by Simon Kaminski, Feb 25, 2013.

  1. Bram

    Administrator Staff Member Premium Member

    Nice! Well spotted Simon.

    I saw the Ring in the menu of AC at Gamescome but didnt see any reference of it in the current TP, until now.

    Would already be cool if it were non-laserscanned. Always great to race.
  2. Just having the Ring would be awesome but everything I have heard so far said AC is coming with 10 laser scanned tracks...we only have 7 confirmed I believe.....
    IMO a laser scanned Nord would be as big if not bigger announcement the even Ferrari :D
    Not getting my hopes up just yet but it sure looks like it could actually be...If and when they do announce it the wait will become just shy of unbearable.
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  3. Rupe Wilson

    Rupe Wilson
    Senior HistorX club driver Staff Member Premium Member

    I can understand the need for laser scanned tracks for actual race teams who wish to do testing.
    as it way cheaper to test and run simulations on a simulator than the cost of going to the circuit itself.
    then it all depends how accurate the simulator is..
    Ac seems to be right at the top with what ive just experienced with the teaser..
    so yes and no for laser scanned tracks it wont make that much difference to me the average Joe driving round the track ill get just as much enjoyment for a non laser scanned track..
    I assume it will also be also quicker to produce if its laser scanned as you don't have to make every little bit of structure so it would cut down on the build time and maybe be cheaper in the long run for the developer...and produce allot more possibilities for the future use of their sim to race teams..
    as opposed to the sim race community...:)
  4. I hope it´s laserscanned, otherwise it´s just another mod which gives maybe 1% of the immersion as a laserscanned track.
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  5. Bram

    Administrator Staff Member Premium Member

    So because the corners are 1 cm off in a track made of pictures and blueprints 99% of the immersion gets lost? lol

    99,99% of the sim racers have never been on the ring in real life and barely know the difference so i think thats very exaggerated Hampus.
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  6. 1% is definitely a bit harsh, but knowing every corner is exactly the right radius and width and even where bumps and such are is worth its weight in gold IMO...A laser scanned Nord is the Holy Grail as far as I am concerned
  7. Tom

    Staff Emeritus Premium Member

    I was there and would be offended if the grass wouldn't be authentic. Laserscan *ALL* the grass!
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  8. LOL. If someone gave you a mod track, and said it was laserscanned, you wouldn't know the difference.

    It's mostly about the prestige.

    EDIT: Magione in the TP is a good example. If someone offered me Prato/Newbury from netkar, and Magione from the TP, and asked me which of those was laserscanned, I'd pick Prato/Newbury before Magione.

    It's a great thing to have, of course, but it is not very correlated with my enjoyment of racing.
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  9. You might get the shape somewhat right but you will never, not once get elevations even remotely correct.
    Or all the bumps.
    When we get the laserscanned one, remember this conversation and we can compare and you´ll see that it´s like night and day.

    Great example would be Sebring. Take VirtuaLM´s track and compare it to iRacing.
    It´s light years apart. flat land vs oh **** i might actually break the suspension here.
    Not to mention the dimensions of the track, VirtuaLM´s is like a parking lot in comparison.

    As i said, 1% (if you are lucky) at getting the same immersion as a proper laserscanned track.

    Why buy a BMW when you can buy a "copy" in South Korea. I mean it´s the same....right?

    IMO of course.
  10. Tom

    Staff Emeritus Premium Member

    Oh, that's going to be interesting...pictured below: me right now. More or less.

  11. Bram

    Administrator Staff Member Premium Member

    Hampus Andersson I am sure it will be a difference of night and day, i am not questioning that. I am just saying that for me personally as a simracer I honestly don't care if a eyescanned track is a few inches off. As long as righthanded corners aren't turning to the left I fine with whatever Nords version we will get.

    Of course I don't say no to a carboncopied nurburgring.
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  12. As I'm not a professional racing driver and do not race on the Nurburgring in the real world. I'm fairly sure that unless one is a professional driver with massive real world nurburgring experience, they would not be able to tell the difference.

    If for example somebody was to tell us that it was a laser scan, even if it was not, assuming that it was an exceptionally well done example none of us would question it. The GT5 version is exceptionally well done and isn't a laser scan. Ultimately the laser scan isn't necessarily improving the experience at all, all it really does is give peace of mind to people who want to believe they are experiencing the real thing.

    I understand why people want laser scans, because it has it's advantages and there can then be no question as to the accuracy, but I dislike the way people cling on to the word.

    You know when SimRaceway released their Silverstone I had discussions with people who didnt like it because it was just like any other mod and even if it was the new layout it couldn't compare to iRacings scanned version. The issue here was that they didn't know it was actually a laser scanned circuit, it was pinpoint accurate.

    What this tells me is the phrase "Laser scan" is more important to some people than the actual track itself, and people will base their opinions often solely around this phrase.
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  13. @Bram Hengeveld can you get a statement from the Assetto Corsa guys on the question
    Nordschleife - laserscanned?

  14. Bram

    Administrator Staff Member Premium Member

  15. :) because you are the men people are listening to Bram :p
  16. Bram

    Administrator Staff Member Premium Member

    Don't think so :)

    Give it a shot I'd say.
  17. I asked them directly lets wait and see :)
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  18. I have driven the Nordschleife in so much sims AND in real life. But nothing comes close to the real one. And my opinion is, that a laser scanned Nordschleife (didnt have GranTourismo that?) would be the greatest thing we can get for AC.
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  19. To the people saying that laser scanned tracks aren't that much better than non-scanned versions, play Race07's Brands Hatch and then try iRacing's laser-scanned version. Surprisingly large difference.
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