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Mexico City (Autódromo Hermanos Rodríguez) - Mexico (Dry)

Discussion in 'F1 2016 Setups' started by Graham Laing, Aug 6, 2016.

  1. Graham Laing

    Graham Laing
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  2. Car
    Haas

    Curcuit
    Mexico City

    Condition
    Dry

    Career
    25%

    Tyres
    S

    Aero
    F Wing angle
    5
    R Wing angle
    4

    Trans
    78%
    75%

    Sus. Geo
    2.50°
    1.00°
    0.09°
    0.38°

    Sus
    10
    10
    4
    4
    5
    4

    Brakes
    75%
    60%

    Tyres (psi)
    24.2
    22.3

    Weight Dis.
    4

    Notes:
    PS4, on the controller. Good setup for doing personal mods to it. I did well with it. A little loose but not uncontrollable. Good luck and drive safe
     
  3. ...again...sorry about the short form...
     
  4. Hi Brian,
    Very good setup for me again. Just few laps to learn the track and i do an 1:23.286 with Super Soft
    Great Job ;)
     
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  5. Did any of you guys have the car pushing on acceleration coming out of corners? I think if you lower tyre pressure 1 notch or set ballast 1 notch towards center, it should take care of that problem. Give me feedback
     
  6. if i remember well, i think, i've just put a little bit more BAR on the front and less BAR on the rear. but i will try to change the pressure and test with ballast too. I'm in my second season with Honda. i quit Renault. So promise, when i'm in Mexico this season, i tell you if i'm quicker or not. :thumbsup:
     
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  7. Sounds great. I just moved from Haas to Mercedes AMG, but I'm thinking about restarting my career and going to Renault...lol. I like the challenge
     
  8. Car
    Mercedes

    Aerodynamics

    Front Wing Angle: 5
    Rear Wing Angle: 5

    Differential
    On throttle: 80%
    Off throttle: 80%

    Suspension Geometry
    Front Camber : -3.30
    Rear Camber: -1.80
    Front Toe: 0.13
    Rear Toe : 0.26

    Suspension
    Front Suspension: 3
    Rear Suspension: 3
    Front Anti-Roll Bar: 9
    Rear Anti-Roll Bar: 9
    Front Ride Height: 5
    Rear Ride Height: 5

    Brakes


    Brake Pressure: 80%
    Front Brake Bias: 60%

    Tyre Pressures

    Front Tyre Pressure: 23.8
    Rear Tyre Pressure: 22.3

    Weight Distribution
    Ballast: 11

    Notes
    **Time Trial Setup** - Full Traction, ABS Brakes, Auto Gears, Xbox Controller (PC) - 01:18:405.
     
  9. 1:20.792 in Quick Race on soft tyres with Brian Albers' setup. A little bit loose in sector 2 (I want my car to be very grippy there tbh) indeed.
     
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  10. You're doing better than what I did. As far as getting more grip, you'll have to mess with it and see what happens. Good luck
     
  11. Now a setup I got from the interwebz :p

    Car
    Mercedes

    Aerodynamics

    Front Wing Angle: 4
    Rear Wing Angle: 5

    Differential
    On throttle: 70%
    Off throttle: 70%

    Suspension Geometry
    Front Camber : -2.70
    Rear Camber: -1.20
    Front Toe: 0.09
    Rear Toe : 0.32

    Suspension
    Front Suspension: 11
    Rear Suspension: 10
    Front Anti-Roll Bar: 11
    Rear Anti-Roll Bar: 4
    Front Ride Height: 5
    Rear Ride Height: 5

    Brakes


    Brake Pressure: 90%
    Front Brake Bias: 60%

    Tyre Pressures

    Front Tyre Pressure: 22.2
    Rear Tyre Pressure: 21.1

    Weight Distribution
    Ballast: 11

    Did full qualifying and my fastest time was 1:19.383 in Q2 on super soft tyres with a PS4 controller.

    This setup can actually be used in races, at least IMHO, because I used more of this kind of setups in my league races.

    EDIT: after doing part of the race the tyre wear seemed horrible. So if anyone knows how to lower that it would be greatly appreciated.
     
    Last edited: Oct 29, 2016
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  12. Do you use this for the race too ? Or can you post your race setup, pls ?
     
  13. It says *Time Trial Setup*. I have not got around to Mexico in my career mode yet. Try putting Camber to its lowest possible setting and see if you can get a Perfect Tyre Management score in Practice.
     
  14. Time trial setups can be used for race too. That's why everyone should test setup in Quick Race and NOT in TT since you have no tyre wear, no fuel load etc. Trust me, this is a golden hint ;) Some colleague in my League racing team told me this.
     
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  15. Ok well I have a method to my madness. I go through several steps.

    1) Doing Time Trial setup means you have no other deciding factors to your laptime. This is very important as then it's between you and the setup. I have done this in many F1 games to great effect. The reason why this is preferred is because it's the best place to get balance, it is certainly NOT about tyre wear when I do a TT setup. In fact, it's all about pure laptime. This pushes camber, roll bars and other things further towards a high deg setup, but sometimes it doesn't turn out that way! At least not in this F1 game.

    In the past I would have put all camber settings and roll bars on full (bars on 11s, camber on -3.50 etc) and need to major tweak .. but it's not the case this year for some reason (on most tracks, but not all), and I find some feedback telling me tyre wear is optimal using my TT setup. That is pure coincidence though ... and is not by design.

    2) A Quick Race will have tyre wear, fuel loads (etc) ... which is not what I need for the first setup. I don't want to be tweaking camber/roll bars/suspension/ride heights/wings while still trying to figure out the balance ... AND doing so while fighting other cars on track. Basically, if I can get in the top 2% of drivers in the world using a TT setup, I've found the right one. You cannot indicate this in Quick Race as there's no leaderboard to compare yourself, the only thing you can compare yourself to is the AI ... which is nowhere near optimal. I really need to test my setup against others real times, and sometimes I'll go as far to try other players (rivals) setup to see if it drives better.

    On one of my setups I did this very thing ... took another guys setup and tweaked it for my own liking. Should have given credit for it really ... but I forgot. I used M.Rs setup for Azerbaijan as I used it for TT and LOVED it so much I let him know. Since then I found out it absolutely sucks on degradation so the setup needed tweaking quite a bit, but at least the balance of the TT setup remained.

    3) What I love about F1 2016 is you get the practice programs which were absent from previous games. The acclimatization program helps you to find out if the car is set up to go around the track and nail the corners as intended at the optimal speeds. If this fails .. then the TT setup is wrong and needs tweaking. Often enough I just need more speed down the straights so I'll adjust the aero, perhaps the ride height a little. If that doesn't work, then it needs an overhaul ... but I've yet to have that issue.

    4) After perfecting that, I move on to tyre management which I take very seriously. This is where my TT setup goes through the process of ensuring a "Perfect" score. I won't always get purple on every lap (on some tracks I did, so I felt like tyre wear was too good so I could add more camber/roll bars), but I'll beat the target scores set by Engineer on "Master" difficulty. If I'm only getting green laps, or even red laps, then the setup is not good enough so I'll adjust the cambers and stuff, and just keep trying different things and hope I don't upset the balance. The last thing I want to do is make the car harder to drive than it was in TT. I've yet to find a TT setup I couldn't tweak to get the perfect score.

    5) After the first two programs I find Qualifying Pace to be the easiest. I've only ever had a issue completing it twice, and on those occasions all I needed was more aero for straightline speed. The balance and the tyre wear were already sorted ... so it couldn't hurt to change that and give me more speed down the straights.

    After these steps are complete, I have a Race Setup. One that isn't very good for TT anymore... but will give less tyre wear, good speed, and ensure corners are hit at their optimal speeds. Everything you need! Now why would I bother doing a setup in Quick Race when I can do it in the way that I am? I fail to see how what I'm doing is wrong and is not a "golden" hint in itself. I've been making setups this way for years now, I do TT setup ... nail that, then tweak it for race conditions. Career mode gives you 90-Minute Practice Sessions with the same factors as a Quick Race and has less cars getting in your way and driving you off track for position.

    My methods have always served me well, and other drivers have appreciated the effort and countless hours I put in to setups so they drive well using a controller/ABS brakes/Full traction/auto gears (etc) for those players who are not particularly handy (or care for) with making it a full simulation.
     
    Last edited: Nov 5, 2016
  16. That does make a lot of sense, looking at it that way. I have also noticed difference from game to game. I use thought that with it being Formula 1, it puts you to test to see how well you can balance your machine from "all out", to "managable" settings. There is a reason for them calling it Formula 1. Switching the restrictions mid-season gives opportunity for the weaker teams to play catch up. I'm talking in the career since, of course. So, I just figured that they do the same thing with the games as well...being that they can't reissue a game with the different restrictions...lol. as far as the difference between TT, and career modes, I havent really paid any attention to hat stuff. Kyle cleared that up for me a short while back. I've been finding myself a bit more involved with 16 than I have previous games.
     
  17. Car
    Sauber

    Aerodynamics

    Front Wing Angle: 6
    Rear Wing Angle: 5

    Differential
    On throttle: 80%
    Off throttle: 80%

    Suspension Geometry
    Front Camber : -3.00
    Rear Camber: -1.50
    Front Toe: 0.13
    Rear Toe : 0.26

    Suspension
    Front Suspension: 3
    Rear Suspension: 3
    Front Anti-Roll Bar: 9
    Rear Anti-Roll Bar: 9
    Front Ride Height: 6
    Rear Ride Height: 6

    Brakes


    Brake Pressure: 80%
    Front Brake Bias: 60%

    Tyre Pressures

    Front Tyre Pressure: 23.4
    Rear Tyre Pressure: 21.9

    Weight Distribution
    Ballast: 6

    Notes
    *Race Setup* - Used in Career mode. The AI are crazy quick through Sector Three, the setup didn't feel bad but perhaps there's a little more to find? The first two sectors should be really quick at least.