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Mclaren P1

Discussion in 'Car Talk' started by Hampus Andersson, Feb 26, 2013.

  1. I think this one will pretty much wreck anything when it comes to laptimes.

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    ...i need to win the lottery.....
     
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  2. some more,

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  4. Bram

    Bram
    Roaring Pipes Maniacs | #27 Staff Premium Member

    Did you order one? :)
     
  5. Yea but it´s a 1:8 scale ;)

    I´m on a diet right now ;)
     
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  6. Umm, where's my car? wish i could afford one :D , sexiest looking car for the past 2 years!
     
  7. Marian Zelenka

    Marian Zelenka
    The downforce is strong with this one. Premium Member

    Ron Dennis broke the Top Gear track record by 10s?! What? Star in affordable car. :D Nordschleife is expected under 7min, off course. Will it break Zonda R's record? Probably not.

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    BTW 1:13.8 - Pagani Huayra :whistling:

    Lap times of non-qualifying vehicles

    1:08.5 – Pagani Zonda R
    1:08.6 – Aston Martin DBR9
    1:10.7 – Ferrari FXX
     
  8. I do not believe it did 1:05 on road legal tyres, even on slicks it'd be impossible. Ron Dennis is obviously either lost, full of bullshit or actually thought the record was a 1:20-something from 10 years ago.
     
  9. Marian Zelenka

    Marian Zelenka
    The downforce is strong with this one. Premium Member

    I think he broke the "Star in reasonably priced car" record. ;)
     
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  10. Love the Pirelli markings and the DRS/KERS buttons on the wheel.

     
  11. Augmented reality look on the P1. Awesome to see this sort of technology being used.

     
  12. Not P1 related but..

     
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  13. Marian Zelenka

    Marian Zelenka
    The downforce is strong with this one. Premium Member

    Rumor has it that P1 is only capable of 7min 4s on Norschleife right now and not under expected 7min target. Well, at least with Goodwin behind the wheel and it's not as extreme car as Zonda R is. It's still a road car. I wouldn't say it's bad, but I expected more. With a bit more practice or more Ring experienced driver. We'll see...

    BTW 7min 28s for 12C.

    And it sells well so far, that's good. Only cars reserved for EU aren't sold out.
     
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  14. Marian Zelenka

    Marian Zelenka
    The downforce is strong with this one. Premium Member

    Naaah...

    Thanks to Jalopnik for digging up more info from McLaren on this topic. It turns out that this slide is an official one from McLaren, but it is not an official time. Rather, it is part of a "mood board" as inspiration to the design team. Engineers are working on getting the P1 around the `Ring under 7 minutes, though, so this still may be a reality some day.
     
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  15. That could easily have been to stay low.

    I actually find this harder to believe,
    Seems others are thinking the same,

    I think it´s a classical Formula One Q1-Q2 sandbagging.

    The car pulls 2G on a skidpad. That´s not even when the car really starts to produce downforce (which is said to be at MP4-12C GT3 levels)
     
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  16. Marian Zelenka

    Marian Zelenka
    The downforce is strong with this one. Premium Member

    I think they said it pulls 2,5G in corners.

    It's all very puzzling and it doesn't add up. On the other hand, the MP4-12C wasn't lightingly fast around Ring too and its time was the same as Ferrari 458 (7:28). Top Gear track was different story and I think it was even a bit slower that they had expected.

    Take these numbers with a pinch of salt, different sources:

     
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  17. I think we have to simply wait and see.
    From the videos i´ve seen of it, it´s ridiculously fast.
     
  18. Marian Zelenka

    Marian Zelenka
    The downforce is strong with this one. Premium Member

    I was digging for some numbers and it's interesting when comparing Nordschleife lap times vs downforce:

    6:47 Pagani Zonda R, 2000kg at 300 kph, 1500 kg (?) at 350 kph - weird numbers
    6:58 Ferrari 599XX, 280 kg at 200 kph, 630 kg at 300 kph

    6:57 Porsche 918 Spyder ______ ? !!!
    7:12 Dodge Viper SRT-10 ACR __ 453 kg at 240 kph
    7:14 Porsche 918 Spyder ______ ?
    7:18 Porsche 911 GT2 RS ______ 35 kg at 200 kph, 140 kg at 330 kph
    7:19 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 ____ 136 kg at ?
    7:24 Nissan GT-R _____________ 80 kg (?) at 300 kph
    7:24 Pagani Zonda F Clubsport __ 600 kg at 300 kph
    7:25 Ferrari Enzo _____________ 775 kg at 300 kph
    7:27 Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0 ___ 193 kg at 310 kph
    7:28 McLaren MP4-12C ________ 100 kg at 240 kph, 120 kg at 270 kph
    7:28 Ferrari 458 ______________ 140 kg at 200 kph, 370 kg at 290 kph


    I've seen onboard of McLaren MP4-12C GT3 which seemed to be under 7 min when l don't take the other part of Nurburgring circuit into consideration.

    Now I'm completely confused as it looks like the downforce itself doesn't tell you if a car is fast or not. One would guess that it would help you in faster corners. But it's just a piece of a puzzle.

    If the P1 will manage a time around 6:58 as the 599XX did, that would be incredible considering 918 Spyder's lap time.
     
    Last edited: Sep 10, 2013