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Is DTM Experience just as crappy as R3E?

Discussion in 'RaceRoom Racing Experience' started by Ricoow, May 23, 2014.

  1. Ricoow

    Ricoow
    420 Premium Member

    Well the question says it all, R3E feels way too arcadish when you are used to AC and just doesnt feel like racing. (TC, ABS, No Setup)
    I bought DTM today but have not yet received the code from RD, (which is not the problem) but I want to know if I wasted my cash on it and how you guys feel about R3E compared to DTM\
    First Experiences were kinda terrible ;)
     
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  2. Peter

    Peter
    Premium Member

    Yes, you wasted your cash.

    You should have tried MP first.
     
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  3. Howard

    Howard
    Staff Emeritus | Engineer at Manor Racing Premium Member

    I think it's pretty good to be honest.
     
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  4. Justin Swan

    Justin Swan
    RD-DVLC

    Why the hell did you buy it if you don't like it? odd!
    anyway.. I like it, Yes it doesn't have the feel of AC [yet] but I have every faith in SimBin as a pedigree sim developer!
     
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  5. I think you wasted the game
     
  6. Ricoow

    Ricoow
    420 Premium Member

    I bought it without even installing R3E because of some vids I've seen :p
    But I'll have to wait and see how things develop then ;)
     
  7. Dennis Phelan

    Dennis Phelan
    more about staying on track. Premium Member

    I re-installed R3E today and tried the DTM "beta" or whatever and did a few online races. I've always been lost in the R3E menus but continued on. I never felt like the car was totally under my control, mostly the ffb [which I have not adjusted yet] was responsible as I felt nothing, nothing other than a "steering pressure" that didn't help at all. What irritated me the most was that I couldn't find tire temp's, how could I make a decent car without that info.

    Now, I have a 5 year old PC and I really thought the demo ran nicely. Framerates could have been higher but there was no big stuttering. I don't know how my machine would cope with the "real" game when I hear about guys with i5's and the latest gpu's having problems.

    Are all the DTM tracks short and tight? Give me an open road!
     
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  8. Yes Dennis, most of the DTM tracks are tight. In fact, most are tighter than the R3E tracks.
     
  9. Bram

    Bram
    Roaring Pipes Maniacs | #27 Staff Premium Member

    ^^ +1

    Only needs some FFB changes.

    (weird thread title btw)
     
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  10. Howard

    Howard
    Staff Emeritus | Engineer at Manor Racing Premium Member

    I thought R3E is pretty good too.
     
  11. I like them both,
     
  12. Emerson Meyer

    Emerson Meyer
    Keep Fighting Premium Member

    What´s the meaning of this post??
     
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  13. I think it's good too.
     
  14. Leemstradamus

    Leemstradamus
    Mid pack attack!

    From the little I tried a while ago it wasn't' my cup of tea.
     
  15. Justin Swan

    Justin Swan
    RD-DVLC

    Yeah, I don't care much for the title either.

    This, like other games, is in development and I'm sure the ffb will be addressed somewhere along the way. It certainly doesn't make it undriveable.
     
  16. Justin Swan

    Justin Swan
    RD-DVLC

    Not much of a fan of the menu system myself, find it all a bit confusing but I guess it's something we'll get use to. Having no problems with FPS and graphics here. I5 + GTX660oc. I do only run my sims @ 1600 x 900 or 1920 x 1080 depending on how it looks on my TV.

    GSC @1080p
    AC @ 1080p
    Race 07 @ 900p
    R3e/DTM @ 900p
    rFactor 2 @ 1080p
     
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  17. Ricoow

    Ricoow
    420 Premium Member

    Menus are like a Maze :p Always searching and literally getting lost in it :o
    I really hope FFB gets improved because I totally miss the feeling of driving a car.
     
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  18. I bought GSC and DTM at the same time four or five weeks ago.

    I've spent maybe 60 hours with GSC, and about four hours playing DTM.

    I've got a beefy pc with SLI GPUs so DTM runs not nearly as well as GSC. As well as that though, I don't really like the handling much, it's not very simmy I find.

    On the other hand I wonder if the tight racing with the ai might be quite good in DTM. But then I haven't spent enough time with it to be sure.
     
  19. An absolute basic and crucial setting in racing\sim racing and it's not included in R3E\DTM-E. It actually worries me that the R3E\DTM-E engine may have been built without this setting and adding it at a later stage (if they do) is not going to be the same. I think it's strange that if the R3E engine does have a tyre temp setting it wasn't enabled in DTM-E.

    Fingers crossed they fix this for the 2014 release.
     
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  20. Marco Versele

    Marco Versele
    Hhmmm, yes ...

    I don't understand the logic of a so called racing 'sim' to omit tire setup possibilities, no left/right differences and total lack of info about the cars your driving (no mass distribution, no info about rpm for max power/torque, ...), no useful telemetry possibilities .
    What's the point of changing dampers or cambers without knowing what your doing?
    It's all trial and error. Doesn't seem a simulation kind of software.
    Must say the graphics and especially the sounds are very good.

    And I get skimmed over by @Peter Koch when I ask about it.
     
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