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I can't go faster than AI!

Discussion in 'RACE 07 - Official WTCC Game' started by skyline86, Oct 5, 2009.

  1. skyline86

    skyline86

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    I'm a newbie come ton Race series. I'm play with AI at 90% and novice difficult. In race day, i can pass AI easily. But in practice and qualifying, I'm always in the end. I can't pass AI's laptime. I think if i can pass AI in race day, i must faster than AI. What's my problem? Thanks for your help!
     
  2. James Yates

    James Yates

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    The AI will go around a second quicker in qualy, but the best racing experiance you can get is here at RD. Once you feel comfortable driving the cars then sign up to the club and start racing online. That should help you improve :)
     
  3. Tim Meuris

    Tim Meuris

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    Hey skyline,

    I have the same problem.
    I'm racing at 96%
    in qualification is 11th place a very good result for me
    but in race I have a much higher pace compared to the AI.
    I still haven't figured out how that's possible.
    It feels unrealistic.
    Btw, it's the first time I know that someone else is complaining about it
    other than myself.

    Nice to know I ain't the only one
     
  4. Matthew Parr

    Matthew Parr

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    No i did used to find this when i wasnt confident enough but get urself online with RD and your experience will change Dramatically!!!
     
  5. Philip Oakley

    Philip Oakley

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    I have exactly the same problem as Skyline and Tim. I'm usually reasonably near the back in Qualifying but in race day I win, most of the time.

    It's really annoying, AFAIK this is the only game it happens in, in rF it's no problem.

    EDIT: Punctuation and spelling lol.
     
  6. Tim Meuris

    Tim Meuris

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    idd I have
    this is the only game it happened with
    I've played gtr2 as well and it never happened there
    shame for such a realistic game:bad:!
     
  7. Attila Domján

    Attila Domján

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    Dont care about the AI guys, real racing is always online. :)
     
  8. Ross Balfour

    Ross Balfour
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    Ok here is how you change it:

    Go open up the track folder and go into a file called "AIW"
    Scroll down a bit untill you see a line called "Race/Qual Ratio"

    If at 1 the Qualifying pace will be at identical pace to the Race pace. 0.9999 or less qualifying will be quicker if above 1 race pace will be quicker than qually pace.

    Hope this helps :)
     
  9. Tim Meuris

    Tim Meuris

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    You're a GENIUS Ross!
    Much appreciated!!! :thanks:
     
  10. Ross Balfour

    Ross Balfour
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    If only I was a genius :)

    NP, If ya have any more problems just post them here.
     
  11. Tim Meuris

    Tim Meuris

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    Thanks m8
    I will certainly do that.

    One more question:

    So standard the parameter is 0.9950,
    do you already notice the difference when you
    change it to, lets say, 0.9975
    or do you only start noticing it from 1?
     
  12. Ross Balfour

    Ross Balfour
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    The standard is 0.9000 I think. I have already edited that one a while back because the same problem was bugging me.

    I think its just trail and error to see what level you want the ratio at. Personally I like it just under 1.
     
  13. skyline86

    skyline86

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    Anyone can qualifying in first row with AI 100%?
     
  14. Matjaž Murn

    Matjaž Murn

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    Yup. It depends on the track, but most of the time it's possible to qualify for pole :)
     
  15. Karl Strömer

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    Always a bunch of people dicouraging a threadmaker about AI by telling him to go online instead of helping out. Way to go.
     
  16. Dietmar

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    I think nobody wants to discourage anybody, but it's all about fun isnt it? You have more fun racing against real drivers.

    The AI, as good as it might be, still behaves strangly in some situations and you can not learn from them because you never know whether they are fast or not, as it is track dependent. Only when you race against other drivers you will gain an understanding what's fast and what's not fast.

    I understand very well from where the query is coming, as everybody when getting into this does not want to be embarrassed by becoming last in a race or being lapped a couple of times (felt the same).

    But the important message is, it does not matter! You anyway will be lapped, even when you beat the AI at 100% (the group of people with enourmous talent who win race right from the beginning is very small). You need to gain driving experience to become faster, but you only gain experience if you participate in race which you prepare with training sessions, but that way you have an aim.

    One thing that I tend to use the AI for is trying to follow a car, but even that does not work very well. As in many (if not most) of the cases as a beginner the AI bets you in the corners but on the straights you are faster than they, so when you manage to follow them in the corner you bump them easily off while exiting (so it is a good training session to not bump them off :) ).
     
  17. Jake McCloy

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    I have the Steam version of GTR Evo installed (I also have the disk version but choose to opt for the Steam install due to convenience) and don't seem to be able to locate these files? Where are they?
     
  18. Tim Ling

    Tim Ling
    It's a million-to-1 chance, but it just might work Premium

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    I believe you'll find them in the Race On\gamedata\location\<track name> folders.

    I'm at work so I cant check the exact location, but from memory that should be it.

    I've not done this myself, but it seems from what Matjaz said it will be necessary to do it for each track individually.

    @Karl: I appreciate what your saying, but encouraging people to get online and play is not a bad thing. The AI is weird, because it has to drive in an unreal way to stay on the track. And RD is a great place to learn :)
     
  19. vmagics

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    I disable the qualify session when racing the AI and instead just set my starting position to somewhere around 2/3 of the way back - ie. in a race with 15 cars on track, I start at position 10. This gives me plenty of cars to overtake and a few to threaten me from behind.
    Karl, to be fair Skyline86 was concerned that he was doing something wrong. Several people confirmed that it was an inherent problem with the game, not his fault and Ross kindly offered a solution. What's the problem?