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EU HistorX Porsche 904 v Camaro Z/28 @ Watkins Glen - Sunday 5th March 2017

Discussion in 'rFactor Racing Club' started by Denis Betty, Feb 24, 2017.

Added to Calendar: 05-03-17
  1. Denis Betty

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    If you are a fan of oldschool racing with vintage cars from the 50's, 60's and 70's this is the club race to join.
    All premium members can sign up for this event and we have unlimited slots available so make sure to bring a friend. Sign up below and make sure to tag fellow community members who you think are up for a challenge!
    Join us
    Not a premium member yet but interested to race with our group of friendly drivers? Click here for more information and learn how you can participate as well. See you on track?!

    Server Name:
    RACEDEPARTMENT.COM
    Server and Teamspeak Password: click here
    Racing Club Rules: click here


    Cars:
    GTTC-A4/Proto A1
    Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 '67
    Porsche 904 (2.0 Boxer 4) '64
    Specs for all of the cars in the mod are available HERE

    *DOWNLOADS REQUIRED FOR THIS EVENT*
    Track: Watkins Glen Pit box allocation: Download

    Race 1
    (Nascar layout)
    Practice start time: GMT 19:00 (20 mins)
    Qualification start time: GMT 19:20 (10 mins free laps)
    Race start time: GMT 19:35 (13 laps)

    Race 2
    (Long layout)
    practice start time: GMT 20:00 (20 mins)
    Qualification start time: GMT 20:20 (10 mins free laps)
    Race start time: GMT 20:35 (13 laps)

    Entry List
    1. Denis Betty (Signed out)
    2. Rupe Wilson
    3. Hans Sneep
    4. Allan Ramsbottom
    5. Slyfrequency (Signed out)
    6. Stuart Thomson (Signed out)
    7. Victor Jimenez
    8. Knut Omdal Tveito
    9. Yves Larose
    10. Stig Bidstrup (Singed out)
    11. Jack Smith
    12. T_rac3
    13. Nuno Rodrigues
    14. Sven-Arne Andersson
    15. Steven Walker
    16. Free slot
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  2. Denis Betty

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    *REMINDER*
    Race one will be on the Nascar layout and race 2 on the Long layout.
    Please choose one car to drive in both races.

    NOTE: You will need EXTRA FUEL for race 2.
     
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  3. Rupe Wilson

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    Sing me up please .

    As much as i love the Camaro, I am going with the Porsche.
    It was my slowest car out the 2 and i need to work on that race pace..
     
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  4. Hans Sneep

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  5. Allan Ramsbottom

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    Im in Denis..:);):thumbsup:
     
  6. Denis Betty

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    If you've raced here before, you will remember the large white kerbs on the exit (outside) of turn 1 R
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    and on the exit of the penultimate turn L.
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    These kerbs are traditionally considered as part of the track and can be used as such. You may consider them to be an extension of the white (or sometimes yellow) line which denotes the track limits, and as such you may drive with all 4 wheels on the kerb here. You may not cut across the grass (with more than 2 wheels) on entry or exit from these kerbs. Please note, the 2 kerbs shown are the only exceptions to normal track limits. You may NOT treat the white kerbs on other corners as track, especially on the inside of a corner and especially at the chicane.
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  7. Rupe Wilson

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    ok sounds good
     
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  8. Slyfrequency

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    Yes, love this track, American muscle for me. Sign me up please Denis! :D
     
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  9. Stuart Thomson

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    sign ups pls :thumbsup:

    And just to make certain - this is a sprint/feature event that is defined by lap count rather than time, so instead of 2x25min races, it'll be closer to 1x20min (short course) and 1x30min (long course) - so we'll need to have a bit more fuel in for R2 :thumbsup:
     
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  10. Victor Jimenez

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  11. Allan Ramsbottom

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  12. Denis Betty

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    *ATTENTION ALL SIGN UPS*
    The Roger Penske Camaro number 36 is more powerful than the other Camaros. Please do not take this car, or you will be tied to a wagon wheel in the midday sun.... naked.... next to an ant's nest.... and you will be smeared with honey... so there.
    Don't you temp me... I'm serious.... I'll do it.
     
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  13. Allan Ramsbottom

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    I will be NAKED..Apart from Racing shoes,& Racing Gloves,Picture to follow shortly.:cautious::cautious:, so im game..:sneaky::sneaky::roflmao::roflmao::D:D:p:p:laugh::laugh:...
     
  14. Rupe Wilson

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    Just to clarify a few point guys..
    How far can you go at the bustop.?
    Firstly well done guys and thank you for understanding were almost there with this..:thumbsup::thumbsup:
    Below you will see 6 pictures of the track limits, with the maximum amount of curb that can be used.
    We all like to race hard that's why we are here, but it also has to be fair.
    Just to clarify the track limits in the chicane (bustop)
    Once or twice we can all make a mistake, 3 times is pushing it. Time to adjust the speed and line taken through the bend. 4 times i expect to see a lift. this has to be done sensibly and not to cause problems for other cars..
    Blatant cutting will not be tolerated. So please slow it down and get it right.
    Racing room must be given if going through side by side, aggressive driving is not allowed.
    RD rules 1 to 12 apply all around the track and every track we race Unless stated in a post from either Denis or myself.
    http://www.racedepartment.com/threads/racing-club-regulations-2017.10978/
    We can answer any questions if still unsure..
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    thank you for your understanding in this matter.
    lets all race clean and fair and enjoy..:)
    @Denis Betty @Hans Sneep @Rupe Wilson @Allan Ramsbottom @Warren Schembri @Stuart Thomson @Jack Smith @T_rac3 @Knut Omdal Tveito @Yves Larose @Roland @Nuno Rodrigues @Joe Cannarozzo @Steven Walker @Sven-Arne Andersson @Stig Bidstrup @Victor Jimenez @Slyfrequency


    Please note : we are not pointing fingers at any individuals here :)

    Thank you for taking the time to read the above please and let me know if we have missed any our our drivers..
     
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  15. Victor Jimenez

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    Thanks for the explanation @Rupe Wilson this bus stop is too difficult to drive a clear line before breaking. Tracing the curve at maximum speed without going beyond the limits is quite difficult. I try. Thanks again
     
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  16. Yves Larose

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    @Rupe Wilson

    in the Nascar Sprint Cup serie they uses all the curbs at the bus stop chicane and opposite of us they stay between the lines exiting T1 and the second to last corner, can i suggest that we use those rules ? its easier to stay between the lines at T1 and the other corner as it is at the bus stop chicane.

     
  17. Rupe Wilson

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  18. Rupe Wilson

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    Hi @Victor Jimenez I start to break at about 400m and see if that works. If i cant make the corner at 400m i will break even earlier
    Remember slow in fast out try and hold the speed whilst going through a corner..
    I look at the fast guys for there speeds through corners to see where the limit is. I am not good enough to break as late as some..
    that comes with many hours of practice, im still struggling but like the challenge..
    If i keep making a mistake (which does happen) i do lift off the gas to show to others im not trying to gain an advantage,
    that's all we ask :)
     
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  19. Stuart Thomson

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    Yep, agree with Rupe - I certainly find the Bus Stop easier if I do all my braking before the first apex. If I'm still braking when I need to start turning left, I've got the corner wrong, and net result is I'm a lot slower, because I can't get on the accelerator as early.

    All figures below are Camaro (Porsche)
    1. braking, gentle rather than stamping, at 450(350)
    2. drop to 3rd(4th) about 150
    3. half off brakes
    4. turn in
    5. straighten
    6. drop to 2nd(3rd)
    7. off brakes
    8. half throttle before first LH apex
    9. turn in
    10. straighten
    11. squeeze on throttle to 75% before second LH apex
    12. turn in
    13. be at 100% throttle on second RH apex.
    14. turn in
    15. up to 3rd(4th)
    Please don't take the above as a definitive "how to", by the way, I'm merely trying to illustrate what I do because :-
    a) most importantly - it's pretty safe, consistent and easy to implement, and
    b) it doesn't actually compromise your lap time too much...I was on the front row using it in the Camaro for R1, and I'm not normally up there in quails.

    If I'm too greedy on the way in, I'm normally in the wall or on the grass or going sideways trying to hold on. It took me ages, and a crapload of bad attempts, scrubbed laps and damaged cars to work this out...because I'm just not very bright...but I though it might help people who haven't driven Watkins before, or at least very often.
     
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  20. Knut Omdal Tveito

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    @Denis Betty
    Sign me up please. Feel I let down the Porsche tonight so I'm gonna give it a new attempt on Sunday.
     
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