Hi All, Sorry for the cry for help but am getting a bit frustrated with my online experience of GT5. I have only started playing it online since Saturday, coincidentally straight after installing the latest patch. The performance on Saturday was rubbish, taking forever to traverse menus and freezing completely in some. The online gaming would not work at all. I gave up and played F12010 online instead which was completely fine. Monday night I tried GT5 again and this time it worked great. Menus took a little longer to get into than when offline but still more than acceptable and a great experience - online play really is fantastic. Then last night... horrendous performance again. - Initial start up time now taking minutes - traversing menus takes minutes. Going into options, coming back out, entering GT Mode, entering open lobby. - once in open lobby at least 5 minutes to refresh the game rooms - when finally able to select a session, stalling for minutes again and being given following message 'you have been disconnected from the server'. - if i try to log into playstation network from within GT5 was getting following error message 'error 80710d23, a connection to the server could not be established'. Not sure what is going on as internet connection is fine, always at least 5 megs. Game works perfectly if I don't sign in to PS network - if I do that's when probs occur. This suggests the issue lies with PS network but F12010 works absolutely fine. Can anyone offer any advice? Is there a helpline I can call? Gutted as finally discovered GT5 in it's best form and can't play it. Any help greatly appreciated. cheers all!