I have a huge problem...95% of mods in rfactor does not give me any oversteer or understeer effect on force feedback... People with a driving force gt (130€ with pedals!!) are happy with its ffb effects and I can't get any feedback while driving....If the car is understeering in a turn, the ffb strenght doesn't change, and with the oversteer i have the same issue... I tried to change almost every parameter in controller.ini but nothing change (indeed nothing change in a better way). Does anyone had the same problem? Does anyone have a solution? it's incredible... I tried driver 142, 144 and older ones... and firmware 681, 750b...same behavior... Only 1 mod in my experience gave me some under-oversteering feedback, a f1 mod made by a real f3 driver that worked to make it as realistic as he can. I got some feedback, not that much I have to say, but at least I got something in my hands... no one experienced the same issue? It's like...it's like there's some force that override tire grip loss...and I get the same force with 100% grip or during oversteering...I tried leo's, realfeel plugin and nothing changed..with the f1 mod I was talking above, for example, real feel plugin and leo's override tire grip effects on ffb, resulting in the same issue, and I need to remove those plugins to feel a decent ffb... In my current mod, f1 1990, I tried the plugins and removed them, no change in tire grip feelings... Changing some values in the controller.ini something happens: - FFB Gain="0.98621" // Strength of Force Feedback effects. Range 0.0 to 1.0. I get a strong and nice ffb with higher values, decreasing it I lost almost all the forces (not at all, but the remaining forces are so subtle I cannot feel them) - FFB steer force exponent="0.80000" // Steering force output "sensitivity". Range 0.0 to infinity. 0.0 to 1.0 = higher sensitivity, greater than 1.0 = lower sensitivity. Increasing it I lost all feedbacks.. - FFB steer force input max="-11500.00000" // Recommended: 11500 (-11500 if controller pulls in the wrong direction). FFB steer force output max="1.80000" // Maximum force output of steering force, recommendation 0.8 to 2.0 Don't know what to do with them...and i frankly doubt they change something helpful - FFB steer force grip function="0.60000" // Range 0.0 to 1.0 (previous hardcoded value was 1.0) - lower values will make steering force decrease LATER as front tire grip is lost - try 0.3 FFB steer force grip weight="0.90000" // Range 0.0 to 1.0, recommended: 0.4 to 0.9. How much weight is given to tire grip when calculating steering force. FFB steer force grip factor="0.60000" // Range 0.0 to 1.0, recommended: 0.2 to 0.6 (previously hardcoded to 0.4). How much of a factor the front wheel grip is on the steering weight. FFB steer front grip fract="0.00000" // Range 0.0 to 1.0 (previous hardcoded value was 0.0), additional effect of front grip loss on steering force The gold lines...I usually use the function at 1.0, I need the force to decrease instantly when i lose grip...second and third values are fantastic...I can't feel the mass transfer through ffb, neither the rear grip...I MUST set them all to the tire grip and all to the front grip...at least this is what i've done with the f1 mod which gave me some tire info... I tried Realfeel plugin with default FFB compeltely disabled (by FFB steer force output max="0.00000" in the controller.ini) but I did not notice any difference in the ffb strenght...NOTHING! Only realfeel, no leo's installed: [#15 Mauricio Gugelmin] MaxForceAtSteeringRack=-4000.000000 SteeringDamper=39800.000000 FFBMixerRealFeelPercent=90.000000 FrontGripEffect=0.000000 SmoothingLevel=1 Kf=4.000000 Ks=7.000000 A=3.500000 Kr=10.000000 I changed the damper to 11000, smoothing to 0 and FFBMixer to 100 but nothing changend (in better)... My wheel dampening setting is 0% I changed the frongripeffect from 0 to 1 and ok, something's wrong... frontgrip 1 and no understeer at all... frontgrip 2 and crazy movement at mid turn: in a right turn, when I steer to the right the ffb pull all along to the right side (instead of still pull to the left)... Furthermore, I can change these settings MaxForceAtSteeringRack=-4000.000000 (realfeel.ini) FFB steer force input max="-11500.00000" (controller.ini) into these settings MaxForceAtSteeringRack=4000.000000 (realfeel.ini) FFB steer force input max="11500.00000" (controller.ini) without finding any difference, apart from crazy wheel movement at 0mph ONLY with the latter... Anyway, frontgripeffect isn't affecting the understeer...This is something strange I also tried to look at the motec force at steering rack and adjusted the realfeel value to match these graphics. This is a complete lap in mexico 1990: I got a massive oversteer in turn 3 with the car snapping and stopping to 0 km/h. This is the zoomed part of the graph in the right instant when the car loses its grip (max Km/h before decreasing hilighted, look at the drop in the right tire load): And this is right after where you can see the speed is decreasing on the right box (ground speed): Did anyone experience the same issue? Did someone have rfactor and a gt3 rs to test if it's my own wheel problem, my own controller.ini problem or something else...or if it's just rfactor that doesn't match to fanatec / gt3 products?