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Featured First Lap of Autodromo Hermano Rodriguez

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by Chris Stacey, Oct 15, 2015.

  1. Yes

    42 vote(s)
    56.8%
  2. No

    32 vote(s)
    43.2%
  1. Chris Stacey

    Chris Stacey
    Ted Kravitz Appreciation Society Staff Premium Member

    In just over two weeks time, the Formula One circus will descend on Mexico for the first time in 23 years.


    The Grand Prix will take place around the Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez; a 4.3 kilometre track with a layout that remains largely unchanged since the last time a Grand Prix was held here. The main alteration comes at the expense of the absolutely epic final corner, Peraltada, which is essentially a more consistent radii, longer and faster version of Monzas' Parabolica. The change sees Peraltada cut in half as the track weaves it's way into a stadium section and under a grandstand before entering the second half of the Peraltada and blasting to the finish line.

    Sergio-Perez-2014.jpg

    Hometown favourite, Sergio Perez, will be keen to impress in front of what will be a sold out Grand Prix venue especially after his inspired drive last time out in Sochi to claim 3rd place after holding it for a vast period before losing it on the penultimate lap, all before reclaiming it on the final lap after the dramatic shunt between Kimi Raikkonen and Valtteri Bottas.

    With the next race taking place in Texas, the previous years Grands Prix have been well attended thanks to a large influx of Mexican fans crossing the boarder to watch their underdog hero. However, now that they've got their own Grand Prix, concerns have been raised that this years US Grand Prix may not be all that well attended as those same Mexican supporters will prefer to go to their own race instead of the one just over the boarder a week earlier, combined with the fact that Formula One has been trying yet struggling to gain traction with Americans over the past few years.

    Over to you!
    Do you like the new Mexican Grand Prix layout? Can Sergio Perez deliver another fantastic performance in front of his passionate home crowd? And should the Texan Grand Prix be concerned that a large portion of their usual audience may not attend this years race?
     
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  2. What a perfect T-cam angle !!! :inlove:
    Codemasters, you hear that ? :sneaky:
    Track ? Doh... 6/10.
    Too Mickey Mouse to me.
    Bring back Mosport. :x3: And Spa. :rolleyes: '67. :D

    edit:
    This is artificial modern track. I recon there could (I really hope there won't be) some serious problem with old school run off areas and some suspicious looking walls way too close to the track. I pray for a sunny weather at least.
     
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  3. Erwin Greven

    Erwin Greven
    Premium Member

    Alert, alert!!! The F1 hooligans ruined another classic track.
    After the Österreichring, Hockenheim, Fuji, Spa now they ruined another classic track. Gone is the Peraltada, gone are the esses. Now it is a 90° left, 90° right and a few kinks. Pity.
     
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  4. Chris Stacey

    Chris Stacey
    Ted Kravitz Appreciation Society Staff Premium Member

    The esses are still present in the current layout, turns 7 through to 11.
     
  5. budlix

    budlix
    Wheel Rotator Premium Member

    A bit flat, I am fan of elevations and blind corners, but still looks good to me. And enjoyable for spectators at least.
     
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  6. Dan Allen

    Dan Allen
    I am the Pastor Maldonado of RaceDepartment.

    Meh, I thought it was good. Unlike @budlix I'm not really a fan of blind corners (quite like elevations though), so I quite liked it.
     
  7. Not a fan. I see maybe one-two places where they could overtake but apart from that, it'll be a boring race
     
  8. Fabian Biehne

    Fabian Biehne
    Premium Member

    They just killed it.
     
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  9. Flammenjc

    Flammenjc
    Nitor Velox Gaming Premium Member

    Yea but what you don't realize is that for modern racing that version of the track would provide completely **** racing. Since cars are more reliant on downforce than ever, having aload of high speed corners in succession will kill what little racing there is left.

    If they removed the wings, sure you could say the ruined it, potentially they ruined it for motorcycle racing, but face the reality, the changes made it will help F1 racing there. I will stick my neck out and suggest the racing will be very good there, even in the first year, for F1.
     
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  10. Andrew Harper

    Andrew Harper
    Premium Member

    Shame they modified it after the double apex right hander. It always looked more of a challenge in the 90's because it looked so damn bumpy. I enjoyed the Indycar races there and I think one year they did use the Peraltada but with a chicane before it to try and keep the speeds down a little, like @gamer19 mentions there was a wall of concrete on your left all the way around (not sure what they did, built a housing estate!?) EDIT: Found a vid of 2007 Indycar. That year they did miss out the stadium section and used Peraltada, shame the track was so heavily altered on that corner. Should still be a fun circuit though......pity those Honda drivers, those long straights are gonna hurt....

     
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  11. Erwin Greven

    Erwin Greven
    Premium Member

    Those are now kinks. Not corners where throughout the whole corner the load is on the left or the right part of the car.
     
  12. Erwin Greven

    Erwin Greven
    Premium Member

     
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  13. Manuel De Samaniego

    Manuel De Samaniego
    3X Race Department Rally Champion

    I like the track, I didn't ever see the old version but I think it's not bad today, I won't be going to the race :(
     
  14. James Cook

    James Cook
    Marcas fan

    Not really liking this. Losing the Peraltada in favour of that awful stadium section is an abomination.
     
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  15. Was this the work of Tilke. It's got his signature 90° elbows everywhere and all the character the track once had is all gone.
     
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  16. Andrew Harper

    Andrew Harper
    Premium Member

    If I remember rightly the circuit owners went bankrupt, the stadium was built on that corner whilst the circuit was basically a shadow of its former self. :(
     
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  17. Flammenjc

    Flammenjc
    Nitor Velox Gaming Premium Member

    This shows how much of the layout they changed. The reality is, it's not changed drastically, besides the Peraltada.
    http://parentesis.com/imagesPosts/AUTODROMO 2.jpg
    So I think people are remembering a false nostalgic memory rather than how the track actually was.

    Remember modern F1 cars can't follow well through tight, fast corners. So having it remain and become an 'F1' event wouldn't make sense. It had to be changed. The circuit as it used to be was never remembered as a CLASSIC anyway, so I'm a bit confused as to why so many people seem to care now Tilke has touched it.
     
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  18. The old and new layouts are on par with each other, where both of them were/are fantastic. They've done a great job of bringing the place up to date with the requirements of a modern day circuit.

    Yes, many would say modern circuits are bland, but this surely isn't one of them. A great transition.
     
  19. kedy89

    kedy89
    Premium Member

    Tilke strikes again. Just how many tracks will he be allowed to destroy before someone stops him. Can count his good creations on one hand.
     
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  20. Come and join us in the anti-Tilke circle-jerk.